Well now, it appears one can teach an old Hat new tricks. Last Christmas Eve, Flunky, the maintenance guy for the property management company I employ, took the liberty to send me dozens of pictures of my destroyed now-former home in Pinson. The pictures told a story that caused a small stroke. One picture I remember too clearly was the garage door, hanging by I-don't-know-what and ultimately defying gravity. Mr. Hat suggested we "address that immediately before someone gets hurt."
But that isn't where I was mentally stuck that particular day. The pictures also told me something bigger and far worse than the thousands of dollars in damage I was staring at. And unfortunately, when pressed, he admitted I had a serious right to be upset. You see, Mr. Hat, in the middle of an eviction, WENT ON THE PROPERTY, which made the eviction process take longer.
Now fast forward 365 days. This Christmas Eve, Mr. Hat sent me a sweet e-mail. He acknowledged that today is the beginning of a holiday time many of us celebrate. He wished me well. He said he was sorry to bother me today. He then asked if my vacant home was rent-ready. I am pleased to say Mr. Hat ended it with a simple, yet polite, closing which suggests to the world he was raised right. I was floored at his professionalism. And I guarantee his mother would have been proud.
Thursday, December 24, 2015
Wednesday, December 23, 2015
August 2009
I just sent Mr. Partner an update on the o'le LLC. I needed to address the maddening situation with Ms. Angie (for another blog. And certainly not fodder for a Merry Christmas). Anyhoo, I couldn't remember how long she had been living there. Instead of rummaging through the hard drive for a copy of her lease, I just did what comes naturally when I need to look up something related to my accidental business: I went back to my blog archives.
She Must Have Thought I Stuttered
So, as you three readers may remember, I went on an absolute tear last month with the property management company. You see, they were letting the three tenants in the homes Marty Sunshine and I own without a partner just slide and pay whatever they felt like paying each month. Lease agreement be damned!
I suspect if one of these tenants had come in last month with a dead pigeon and a pot of rotted carnations, that would have been exchanged for one month of free rent. And believe me, I may have said something along those lines to the property management company, because as far as I was concerned, they hadn't been working for me.
As I was writing this post yesterday, I was happy in the illusion that everything is straightened out. However, no sooner had I written the above paragraph Ms. Amy called. It appears Ms. Martin didn't seem to fully understand that if she didn't follow through with her commitment to pay the remaining December balance by December 18th and subsequently "break her back" (her words) to make sure rent would be paid on time thereafter, I meant business. So, when Ms. Amy sweetly broke the news, I replied with a few unholiday-like sentiments. And, I told her to affix a notice on her door telling her to move out.
I suspect if one of these tenants had come in last month with a dead pigeon and a pot of rotted carnations, that would have been exchanged for one month of free rent. And believe me, I may have said something along those lines to the property management company, because as far as I was concerned, they hadn't been working for me.
As I was writing this post yesterday, I was happy in the illusion that everything is straightened out. However, no sooner had I written the above paragraph Ms. Amy called. It appears Ms. Martin didn't seem to fully understand that if she didn't follow through with her commitment to pay the remaining December balance by December 18th and subsequently "break her back" (her words) to make sure rent would be paid on time thereafter, I meant business. So, when Ms. Amy sweetly broke the news, I replied with a few unholiday-like sentiments. And, I told her to affix a notice on her door telling her to move out.
Friday, December 18, 2015
The Funk Has Lifted
"If you go to the grocery store and count out 10 people, eight of them will have bruised credit." I said last week to some really nice folks, who didn't think any landlord would consider renting to them. And then I finished with the same line I have been saying--and meaning--for the past 13+ years, "Your credit score is just a number. You are not your credit score any more than you are your street address."
A credit "score" is just a number. It is a benchmark of where you are in your life right now. It goes up and goes down. But it doesn't look you in the mirror and say, "Hey, today you are a 583!" In fact, it is a complete pain in the butt to try to find your credit score if you really want to.
I have never judged folks based on their credit score. Life happens. I have people in my life with amazing credit scores. I have people in my life with crummy credit scores. And I have people in my life with no credit scores. In fact, for the most part, I probably can't tell you who is who. And I really don't care.
That said, I have been identifying myself by my crummy credit for the past six months. I called myself a failure. I've shamed myself. I beat myself up over our choices--logical choices. Choices I still stand by. Choices that in hindsight were inevitable. And frankly, if I had my way, they would have happened sooner. I started lobbying Marty and Mr. Partner years ago to thin the heard. (Actually, I lobbied them heavily in 2006 not to buy any more homes... and lost.)
But here we are. I have been in a profound funk for most of the year over this. I have processed my funk with you three readers. Sometimes sitting across from you. Sometimes in this blog. Thank you all for listening and reading along. And thank you for reaching out when you thought I needed you. Your calls, e-mails, pep-talks, hugs and friendship mean more than you know.
Two events happened on Monday. The first was Buckaroo came up to me in a quiet moment and asked if we were moving into an apartment. It took me by surprise. I hadn't realized how much he had processed our situation and what kinds of conclusions his limited life experience had brought him to. The other was dinner with a friend who reminded me how I have never judged others of their situation and how harshly I have judged mine.
Our situation is what it is. Times are lean, but not impossible. Buckaroo and Polly still have a roof over their head. We have our health. We have each other. We have friends and family who love us and support us. They loved us and supported us when our credit score was higher too. We have friends and family who love us and don't support us. They loved us and didn't support us when our credit score was higher. In fact, when I got to thinking about it on my drive home after dinner I realized, other than unburdening ourselves with the inevitable, nothing has really changed because it is just a number.
A credit "score" is just a number. It is a benchmark of where you are in your life right now. It goes up and goes down. But it doesn't look you in the mirror and say, "Hey, today you are a 583!" In fact, it is a complete pain in the butt to try to find your credit score if you really want to.
I have never judged folks based on their credit score. Life happens. I have people in my life with amazing credit scores. I have people in my life with crummy credit scores. And I have people in my life with no credit scores. In fact, for the most part, I probably can't tell you who is who. And I really don't care.
That said, I have been identifying myself by my crummy credit for the past six months. I called myself a failure. I've shamed myself. I beat myself up over our choices--logical choices. Choices I still stand by. Choices that in hindsight were inevitable. And frankly, if I had my way, they would have happened sooner. I started lobbying Marty and Mr. Partner years ago to thin the heard. (Actually, I lobbied them heavily in 2006 not to buy any more homes... and lost.)
But here we are. I have been in a profound funk for most of the year over this. I have processed my funk with you three readers. Sometimes sitting across from you. Sometimes in this blog. Thank you all for listening and reading along. And thank you for reaching out when you thought I needed you. Your calls, e-mails, pep-talks, hugs and friendship mean more than you know.
Two events happened on Monday. The first was Buckaroo came up to me in a quiet moment and asked if we were moving into an apartment. It took me by surprise. I hadn't realized how much he had processed our situation and what kinds of conclusions his limited life experience had brought him to. The other was dinner with a friend who reminded me how I have never judged others of their situation and how harshly I have judged mine.
Our situation is what it is. Times are lean, but not impossible. Buckaroo and Polly still have a roof over their head. We have our health. We have each other. We have friends and family who love us and support us. They loved us and supported us when our credit score was higher too. We have friends and family who love us and don't support us. They loved us and didn't support us when our credit score was higher. In fact, when I got to thinking about it on my drive home after dinner I realized, other than unburdening ourselves with the inevitable, nothing has really changed because it is just a number.
Saturday, December 12, 2015
Top Tenant Tips for Not Annoying your Landlord
Last week I said I would write this. I promise to stop at five six.
1. Pay on time and pay what you are contractually obligated to pay. When you filled out the application I asked for pay stubs to make sure you can afford the house. You also signed a contract. Ms. Kathy, who used to live in my home in Moody (and now, lives next door to my home in Moody, but that's for another blog) used to tell me--and she meant this as a compliment--"I am so glad I can deal with you and not a company. You understand." What I understood was she was probably spending her rent money on blow, trinkets or (in one case) bail money for her brother.
2. Keep tabs on your family members: I had a tenant in Fultondale who had at least twelve siblings. One died each month and she needed her rent money for their funeral--because funerals just happen to cost $1000 each. Perhaps she was getting a volume discount? We owners are happy to extend a courtesy once in a while when a tenant is short funds for true emergencies (life happens). We aren't willing to do it all the time and we aren't running a homeless shelter.
3. Don't make the neighbors call me: I once had some random person in Alabama hunt me down through the Arizona Department of Real Estate (a former tenant told her what I did for a living) to tattle on her current neighbors, my tenants. I had another neighbor once call me to tell me my tenant's teenage boys were jumping off the roof of my home. Behave like everyone is watching and assume they will call me. I just counted. I have contacts for neighbors for five of my homes--that is not including Moody, where I used to rent to two of the neighbors. If you act up, the neighbors will gladly tell me.
4. Don't loose your broom: When I rent to folks who used to live in an apartment, I generally advise them to think of a few extra costs they will have when they move in to a home: a broom, lawn mower, etc. Dear tenants: now that you own the broom and lawn mower, use it. Often. If you are grown up enough to rent a home, keep it tidy on the inside and out.
5. Sweat the small things: If a door handle is loose, tighten it up. It is probably loose because you pulled too hard. If a towel bar is wobbly, tighten it up and tell your kids to stop hanging on it. Fix the minor stuff that you probably caused anyway and leave the broken hot water heater to me.
When I wrote this, I thought five would sum it up. But I then realized I forgot the one way tenants annoy me the absolute very most.
6. Just don't do this: If you are going to be late on rent. Don't tell me the day rent is due. If something is broken--and you know about it ahead of time (and I know you do)--don't wait until 5 p.m. Mountain Standard Time on a Friday before a long weekend to tell me. Nothing throws goodwill out the window faster than this game. And I have a good memory (ask Bliz) and know how to hold a grudge. You want me to respond right away if you have a problem. Do me the same courtesy.
1. Pay on time and pay what you are contractually obligated to pay. When you filled out the application I asked for pay stubs to make sure you can afford the house. You also signed a contract. Ms. Kathy, who used to live in my home in Moody (and now, lives next door to my home in Moody, but that's for another blog) used to tell me--and she meant this as a compliment--"I am so glad I can deal with you and not a company. You understand." What I understood was she was probably spending her rent money on blow, trinkets or (in one case) bail money for her brother.
2. Keep tabs on your family members: I had a tenant in Fultondale who had at least twelve siblings. One died each month and she needed her rent money for their funeral--because funerals just happen to cost $1000 each. Perhaps she was getting a volume discount? We owners are happy to extend a courtesy once in a while when a tenant is short funds for true emergencies (life happens). We aren't willing to do it all the time and we aren't running a homeless shelter.
3. Don't make the neighbors call me: I once had some random person in Alabama hunt me down through the Arizona Department of Real Estate (a former tenant told her what I did for a living) to tattle on her current neighbors, my tenants. I had another neighbor once call me to tell me my tenant's teenage boys were jumping off the roof of my home. Behave like everyone is watching and assume they will call me. I just counted. I have contacts for neighbors for five of my homes--that is not including Moody, where I used to rent to two of the neighbors. If you act up, the neighbors will gladly tell me.
4. Don't loose your broom: When I rent to folks who used to live in an apartment, I generally advise them to think of a few extra costs they will have when they move in to a home: a broom, lawn mower, etc. Dear tenants: now that you own the broom and lawn mower, use it. Often. If you are grown up enough to rent a home, keep it tidy on the inside and out.
5. Sweat the small things: If a door handle is loose, tighten it up. It is probably loose because you pulled too hard. If a towel bar is wobbly, tighten it up and tell your kids to stop hanging on it. Fix the minor stuff that you probably caused anyway and leave the broken hot water heater to me.
When I wrote this, I thought five would sum it up. But I then realized I forgot the one way tenants annoy me the absolute very most.
6. Just don't do this: If you are going to be late on rent. Don't tell me the day rent is due. If something is broken--and you know about it ahead of time (and I know you do)--don't wait until 5 p.m. Mountain Standard Time on a Friday before a long weekend to tell me. Nothing throws goodwill out the window faster than this game. And I have a good memory (ask Bliz) and know how to hold a grudge. You want me to respond right away if you have a problem. Do me the same courtesy.
Friday, December 11, 2015
How to be a Good Property Manager*
*from a landlord's perspective.
There is a reason for this series.
Know who you work for and never forget it: You work for the owner. That's it. You don't work for the tenant or the plumber. Your fiduciary responsibility is only to your owner. Jot it down. There will be a quiz later.
Answer your phone: By far, Kirby has been the best of the property managers I have gone through in Birmingham. However, Kirby had to be the absolute worst at answering his phone. I understand property management companies manage hundreds of homes. Which means they have hundreds of owners, tenants and vendors. So there is never a lull in the action. But still! I find it strange when I am researching property management companies in Arizona, how many reviews start with "company never answers their phone" or "my call always go to voice mail." My company has a simple policy for its sales agents: come in and help once in a while and you will get leads. So, two hours once a week picking up a ringing telephone can be worth multiple commissions.
Return Phone Calls and E-mails: In all fairness, we all have people in our lives whose phone calls and e-mails we shove to the bottom of the food chain. Those people earned it. But most don't. Call/text/e-mail back those who call you--even if it is to say "Hey, got your message, tied up right now because a heard of dead water buffalo just died in my lobby. I will get back to you soon."
Give us a Head's Up: Tenant pay late? Their lease is up? Let us know. Most property management software applications have an automatic e-mail notification built in for such occasions (including Luigi's company--because I know what software he uses). It drives me insane to find out when I get my owner payout every month that tenants couldn't be bothered to pay the rent. If I had to pick one item that drives me buggy about the company I use in Alabama, it is this.
Half a Loaf of Bread is Not Better than a Full Loaf of Bread: Do not take a partial payment from a tenant. That means the tenant stays for the entire month on reduced rent. When offered a partial payment, hand it back to the tenant and tell them to try again.
Recognize that Perpetually Late Tenant Whose Grandmother Died. Again: Seriously, know the excuses and call the deadbeat out on them.
Don't Threaten, Do It: Evict when necessary. End of story.
Fix It for a Reasonable Price: Reasonable Price: $200-ish for a garage door opener. Not reasonable price: $2,000. I realize you up-charge. Me not dealing with the moment-by-moment drama of what the plumber is doing is worth it to me. But I am not stupid.
Be Professional: And hence, the reason for this series--because this happened to me this week. Though I complain about them, I swear this company in Alabama is better than any other I currently have available to me. I like most of the people in the company. I like Luigi, Jay, April and Willy. I am even lukewarm on Flunky right now. But dear Heavens! Don't send me a friend request Facebook. I may be fond of you, but we aren't friends. We are in a business relationship. I don't want to know if you need prayers for your sick guinea pig, what your political affiliation is or if you are (Heaven forbid) a Dodger's fan, And more to the point, if I am telling you I am out of funds and you see a picture of me on a tropical island, you may think I am fibbing. But maybe I am not. Maybe I have an uncle-in-law who lets me stay there for the price of painting his shed. You don't know. And I don't want you to know.
There is a reason for this series.
Know who you work for and never forget it: You work for the owner. That's it. You don't work for the tenant or the plumber. Your fiduciary responsibility is only to your owner. Jot it down. There will be a quiz later.
Answer your phone: By far, Kirby has been the best of the property managers I have gone through in Birmingham. However, Kirby had to be the absolute worst at answering his phone. I understand property management companies manage hundreds of homes. Which means they have hundreds of owners, tenants and vendors. So there is never a lull in the action. But still! I find it strange when I am researching property management companies in Arizona, how many reviews start with "company never answers their phone" or "my call always go to voice mail." My company has a simple policy for its sales agents: come in and help once in a while and you will get leads. So, two hours once a week picking up a ringing telephone can be worth multiple commissions.
Return Phone Calls and E-mails: In all fairness, we all have people in our lives whose phone calls and e-mails we shove to the bottom of the food chain. Those people earned it. But most don't. Call/text/e-mail back those who call you--even if it is to say "Hey, got your message, tied up right now because a heard of dead water buffalo just died in my lobby. I will get back to you soon."
Give us a Head's Up: Tenant pay late? Their lease is up? Let us know. Most property management software applications have an automatic e-mail notification built in for such occasions (including Luigi's company--because I know what software he uses). It drives me insane to find out when I get my owner payout every month that tenants couldn't be bothered to pay the rent. If I had to pick one item that drives me buggy about the company I use in Alabama, it is this.
Half a Loaf of Bread is Not Better than a Full Loaf of Bread: Do not take a partial payment from a tenant. That means the tenant stays for the entire month on reduced rent. When offered a partial payment, hand it back to the tenant and tell them to try again.
Recognize that Perpetually Late Tenant Whose Grandmother Died. Again: Seriously, know the excuses and call the deadbeat out on them.
Don't Threaten, Do It: Evict when necessary. End of story.
Fix It for a Reasonable Price: Reasonable Price: $200-ish for a garage door opener. Not reasonable price: $2,000. I realize you up-charge. Me not dealing with the moment-by-moment drama of what the plumber is doing is worth it to me. But I am not stupid.
Be Professional: And hence, the reason for this series--because this happened to me this week. Though I complain about them, I swear this company in Alabama is better than any other I currently have available to me. I like most of the people in the company. I like Luigi, Jay, April and Willy. I am even lukewarm on Flunky right now. But dear Heavens! Don't send me a friend request Facebook. I may be fond of you, but we aren't friends. We are in a business relationship. I don't want to know if you need prayers for your sick guinea pig, what your political affiliation is or if you are (Heaven forbid) a Dodger's fan, And more to the point, if I am telling you I am out of funds and you see a picture of me on a tropical island, you may think I am fibbing. But maybe I am not. Maybe I have an uncle-in-law who lets me stay there for the price of painting his shed. You don't know. And I don't want you to know.
Thursday, December 10, 2015
How to be a Good Landlord*
*in the eyes of a property management company.
Let's make a few assumptions here. The first being everyone is getting along. The second being that the property management company is competent.
Be Fussy: If you pick a bad tenants, you get drama. Which means the property management company gets drama. Six months down the line, choosing a bad tenant will come back to haunt you. By then you have forgotten it was your choice to have this bozo in your home and everyone's level of drama will be at an all-time high. So, pick well the first time.
Check the calendar: Don't, for the love of all that is right and just, call the first Monday of the month. Nobody--from the broker all the way down to the commissioned salesperson who is helping out for a few hours answering the phones--has time to deal with you. We are busy dealing with your tenants. There seems to be a correlation between tenants paying the rent and tenants asking for repairs. Either that, or there is some vast conspiracy for all items in a rental home to break the weekend before the first Monday of the month. Either way, don't call.
Write the check: Things break. They break in your own home too. Fix them. I am not saying install hardwood floors if a floor tile is cracked, but if you have a drippy faucet, fix it immediately.
Pick your battles: If you need to fight, fight. But make sure you know what you are fighting for and that you are fighting with the right person. "I didn't get my owners' statement until the 17th of the month and you told me I would get it on the 16th," is just going to ensure your next phone call or e-mail isn't answered promptly. (Are you listening Canadian owners????)
Make sure you are communicating with the right person: The bookkeeper can't tell you how many showings you have received. The leasing agent can't tell you if the tenant paid the rent. You wouldn't call your electric company and demand that the CEO fix a discrepancy on your bill or the accounting department to turn off your power. The same goes here.
Don't assume you are being ignored: Most property management companies have about 10 folks working there. We have five, with a few as-needed folks waiting in the wings. Sometimes issues are triaged. We know you are interested in hearing if the weeds were pulled at your home. But perhaps someone else's home burned down last night and the weeds haven't been top of mind. And by the way, we can't tell you that another client's home burned down last night. It isn't any of your business anyway.
Don't immediately jump to conclusions: Life happens. While you are thinking your 78 year old tenant who has been renting from you for the past eight years and has always paid early or on time is now a crook because rent is 15 days late, it might not be the case. Perhaps his wife is in the hospital, there's been a problem with his social security and his car broke down. What you may not know is that we, at the property management company, know this and the tenant is completely embarrassed by his situation. He isn't looking for a handout, but is in desperate need of a hand up. In the background, we have taken up a collection from our office, surrounding offices in our business complex and from other real estate agents we know for help for his rent, utilities and food. We may have asked some of our plumbers, electricians and roofers we work with for donations as well. We may have contacted a local garage and asked if they can fix this man's car. We also may have slipped a local Uuber driver or taxi company a few bucks for gas and asked if they could drive this man to and from the hospital every day while his car is being fixed. There's a lot we do behind the scenes. This is a people business. The human aspect is crucial. We understand this is a business for you. We also understand human dignity.
We don't work for free: Our kids are addicted to groceries just like yours are. I understand when things break they need to be fixed. It isn't Luigi's job to pay my plumber or roofer. If you are "tired of paying for everything," sell the house.
Be nice: Manners go along way. There isn't a mother alive who will admit they didn't raise their child right. So, I am willing to bet you have used the phrases, "please" and "thank you" on many occasions. Do it when you call us as well. That will get more done in your name than screaming from the rooftops what a$$h***s we are when you are talking to us. Telling everyone you talk to how incompetent that particular person is, will not win friends. And, it probably won't get your home showed either. Trust me.
What A Property Manager Brokerage Does
It occurred to me that though I blog about managing properties, I have never actually defined what a property management company does. My accidental business was defined by the Arizona Secretary of State's office as a "property management" business. And you can see how well that turned out. I was able to get around a few major points--like not having a real estate license in Alabama--because I was only managing my own properties. But for the most part, someone at a property management company better have a real estate license.
I currently work for a property management and real estate brokerage. In fact I was the first "real estate" portion of the real estate brokerage. There are now four of us (and a few part-timers) who sell real estate and rent out homes for our company when the occasion arises. But mostly we sell and sit around processing the absurd stories we hear on a daily basis. There are enough true tales where I work that they don't need this blog.
Anyway, I am in the mood to type this morning and thought I would take a few chunks of cyber space to explain a few things.
Property Managers Work for the Landlords: Actually, we are called "owners" in the biz. That's what the contract says. That's who pays the company. There should never be confusion about this point. Ever.
Property Managers Find Tenants: Tis true. I am certain you are shocked by this. Landlords hire a company to show homes, screen tenants and negotiate leases between tenant and landlord. I equate it to Charlie's Angles. Charlie was never seen but was the guy everyone needed by-off from. Charlie is the owner.
The property manager will say, "let me see if the owner will allow you Mr. 760 credit score who makes $300,000 a year to rent this $1000 a month home. I am not sure..." The tenant then waits. And waits. And calls (repeatedly) asking if the owner approved. Then when they are told "not yet," the tenant proceeds to give lots more personal information about why they are so hot and the owner should pick them. The property management company then takes copious notes of what the tenant says and puts it into the database. For later. Just in case. Of course, what really has happened is the potential tenant has called sixteen times in an hour and the owner just hasn't checked their voice mail yet.
Please don't confuse this: property managers don't approve tenants. That's the landlord's doing.
Property Managers Schedule Maintenance When Something Breaks: I don't fix broken toilets. Neither does my broker or my company's accountant. We call someone to do this. The big misnomer I hear from owners is that they are surprised they have to write the check anyway. After all, they have a property management company! The work isn't done for free. Sometimes (like in the case of Luigi's company--and actually the one I work for as well), the property management company has an on-site maintenance company they are affiliated with to handle repairs.
Property Managers Handle the Legal and the Ugly: Property managers call the eviction attorney (guess who writes the check?). Property managers go to court to explain to Your Honor that the tenant really did trash the home. Here is the proof. Here is the lease. Here is the receipts.
There are some statistics somewhere that suggest that most novice owners hire property management companies when relationships go South. The owner and the tenant have been chummy. The tenant gets a little late on rent and figures there is enough good will floating around to stretch things out a bit. Then something breaks and the owner, who hasn't received rent, doesn't want (or can't afford--because they haven't received the rent) to fix the broken whatever. Then the tenant, who is pissy that the broken whatever hasn't been fixed withholds rent. This vicious circle continues and eventually the owner, fed up and feeling helpless, hires a property management company to straighten out the tenant.
Property Managers Keep Really Good Records: Actually, in Arizona at least, property management companies are more closely scrutinized and more often audited than non-property management brokerages. For one reason is because there are trust accounts. Property management companies handle tenants' security deposits. Think of it this way: if a property management company manages 800 homes and the average security deposit is $1200, that's a lot of money a property manager has in the bank. In addition, any tenant can complain about anything to the Department of Real Estate and be heard. So, property management companies keep tighter controls on their books and need to be meticulous in their record keeping.
Property Managers Handle Frustrated Owners: And we are all frustrated. We feel helpless. A smart owner knows they are not the only fire-drill on the property manager's plate and knows how to be gracious when the need arises. The foolish owner demeans everyone, making sure their calls won't be returned and their e-mails will be a lower priority.
Property Managers Tell Stories Everyone Who Hears Thinks We Made Up: No we didn't. The guy who had the presence of mind to send a selfie of him holding an envelope in front of our office as "proof" he paid the rent, yet it was never received, is hilarious to us. It brings a bit of amusement to balance out the frustrated owner who did not receive their money.
I currently work for a property management and real estate brokerage. In fact I was the first "real estate" portion of the real estate brokerage. There are now four of us (and a few part-timers) who sell real estate and rent out homes for our company when the occasion arises. But mostly we sell and sit around processing the absurd stories we hear on a daily basis. There are enough true tales where I work that they don't need this blog.
Anyway, I am in the mood to type this morning and thought I would take a few chunks of cyber space to explain a few things.
Property Managers Work for the Landlords: Actually, we are called "owners" in the biz. That's what the contract says. That's who pays the company. There should never be confusion about this point. Ever.
Property Managers Find Tenants: Tis true. I am certain you are shocked by this. Landlords hire a company to show homes, screen tenants and negotiate leases between tenant and landlord. I equate it to Charlie's Angles. Charlie was never seen but was the guy everyone needed by-off from. Charlie is the owner.
The property manager will say, "let me see if the owner will allow you Mr. 760 credit score who makes $300,000 a year to rent this $1000 a month home. I am not sure..." The tenant then waits. And waits. And calls (repeatedly) asking if the owner approved. Then when they are told "not yet," the tenant proceeds to give lots more personal information about why they are so hot and the owner should pick them. The property management company then takes copious notes of what the tenant says and puts it into the database. For later. Just in case. Of course, what really has happened is the potential tenant has called sixteen times in an hour and the owner just hasn't checked their voice mail yet.
Please don't confuse this: property managers don't approve tenants. That's the landlord's doing.
Property Managers Schedule Maintenance When Something Breaks: I don't fix broken toilets. Neither does my broker or my company's accountant. We call someone to do this. The big misnomer I hear from owners is that they are surprised they have to write the check anyway. After all, they have a property management company! The work isn't done for free. Sometimes (like in the case of Luigi's company--and actually the one I work for as well), the property management company has an on-site maintenance company they are affiliated with to handle repairs.
Property Managers Handle the Legal and the Ugly: Property managers call the eviction attorney (guess who writes the check?). Property managers go to court to explain to Your Honor that the tenant really did trash the home. Here is the proof. Here is the lease. Here is the receipts.
There are some statistics somewhere that suggest that most novice owners hire property management companies when relationships go South. The owner and the tenant have been chummy. The tenant gets a little late on rent and figures there is enough good will floating around to stretch things out a bit. Then something breaks and the owner, who hasn't received rent, doesn't want (or can't afford--because they haven't received the rent) to fix the broken whatever. Then the tenant, who is pissy that the broken whatever hasn't been fixed withholds rent. This vicious circle continues and eventually the owner, fed up and feeling helpless, hires a property management company to straighten out the tenant.
Property Managers Keep Really Good Records: Actually, in Arizona at least, property management companies are more closely scrutinized and more often audited than non-property management brokerages. For one reason is because there are trust accounts. Property management companies handle tenants' security deposits. Think of it this way: if a property management company manages 800 homes and the average security deposit is $1200, that's a lot of money a property manager has in the bank. In addition, any tenant can complain about anything to the Department of Real Estate and be heard. So, property management companies keep tighter controls on their books and need to be meticulous in their record keeping.
Property Managers Handle Frustrated Owners: And we are all frustrated. We feel helpless. A smart owner knows they are not the only fire-drill on the property manager's plate and knows how to be gracious when the need arises. The foolish owner demeans everyone, making sure their calls won't be returned and their e-mails will be a lower priority.
Property Managers Tell Stories Everyone Who Hears Thinks We Made Up: No we didn't. The guy who had the presence of mind to send a selfie of him holding an envelope in front of our office as "proof" he paid the rent, yet it was never received, is hilarious to us. It brings a bit of amusement to balance out the frustrated owner who did not receive their money.
Sunday, December 06, 2015
Yea, I Said That
The phone call today was cathartic.
It was the mortgage company calling once again, (after being unwilling to negotiate with us several months ago), telling me before we continued the call I would have to verify my social security number. This particular representative was a bit more innovative than many I have spoken to in the past. When I refused, he asked if I could verify my payment amount or my street address. I happen to know from past experience, when they ask this particular question, they are only referring to the home where they are the mortgage holder.
I was pleased to say, "I don't have a mortgage with you."
It was the mortgage company calling once again, (after being unwilling to negotiate with us several months ago), telling me before we continued the call I would have to verify my social security number. This particular representative was a bit more innovative than many I have spoken to in the past. When I refused, he asked if I could verify my payment amount or my street address. I happen to know from past experience, when they ask this particular question, they are only referring to the home where they are the mortgage holder.
I was pleased to say, "I don't have a mortgage with you."
Friday, December 04, 2015
"Precarious and Unpredictable"
I left a reply for Realestaetchief about Number 3, but the author chose not to publish it. It went like this: Do not "reward" your tenants for doing what is contractually obligated. This is a business relationship. The IRS does not reward you for paying your taxes. The mortgage company doesn't reward you for paying your mortgage. Additionally, personal relationships can come back to bite you in a court of law.
Some of you three long-time readers may remember, I once said "Happy Mother's Day" to a tenant and spent two hours in 2011 testifying against her because of something so innocuous.
Maybe I will write a post later titled, "5 Tenant Tips for Not Annoying your Landlord." But not sure I can stop at 5.
Update: realestatechief wrote me back: he said, "Obviously you only do this with good tenants." No. No. NO. Please don't do this with any tenants.
5 Tips for becoming a successful Landlord
by realestatechief
The path to becoming a landlord can be precarious and unpredictable. The lessons you learn as a landlord are often costly and time consuming. In my few years of being a landlord I have learned some incredibly important tips.
1. Don’t let a good tenant go over desire to minimally increase rent. Greed is toxic. It destroys all relationships. For a minimal increase in rent don’t risk losing a good tenant. A 25 to 50 dollar increase every month is not worth losing a tenant who pays on time has kept your property clean and is trustworthy. Keep good tenants happy.
2. Keep your property clean and renovated. You don’t want to attract the wrong type of tenants. Uncleanliness and disorder in the property you own will breed that sort of behavior with your tenants. Floors bathrooms kitchens and light fixtures should always be updated. This will attract clean and orderly tenants. It is a wise decision to do this trust me.
3. Reward good tenants with holiday gifts. Even a 5 dollar Starbucks gift card given to your tenants will make them happy. These little tokens of kindness go a long way and are very meaningful. Any good relationship even if it’s a tenant landlord one requires work and sacrifice.
4. Avoid pets. Pets ruin properties. They damage wood eat everything and can cause significant damage. Be careful when it comes to pets.
5. Choose tenants very wisely. Screen your tenants. Low credit scores and bad background checks are grounds for dismissing a potential tenant. Felony charges on a potential tenant are a definite no.
Always remember that the tenant landlord relationship is very important and must be maintained. Keep your tenants happy and you will be content as well.
Wednesday, December 02, 2015
Hat Tricks
So this week I got an e-mail from Flunky the AssHat. He sweetly told me my tenant in Alabaster is having some trouble with her garage door opener. He sent me the work order and asked if I would like him to handle this or if I have a preferred vendor. He has never asked me before if I have a "preferred vendor."Generally, it is "What do you want to do." And the answer of course is: "figure it out yourself--that's why I have hired a property management company in the first place."
When I asked him for the scope of work, because "garage door isn't working properly and tenant changed batteries and can't figure it out," didn't exactly give me enough reassurances this wouldn't be a $10,000 cost to me. Flunky the Hat professionally and promptly returned my e-mail saying he didn't think it would cost much. And, (AND) if I used his qualified handyman it should be a minimal cost. I am paraphrasing here, "minimal" might have a few too many syllables.
At any rate, I gave my blessing and told him to get it fixed. And what do you know! Flunky got back to me. The work was done in less than 24 hours. And, for the first time in Alabama property management history, the cost was under $100.
When I asked him for the scope of work, because "garage door isn't working properly and tenant changed batteries and can't figure it out," didn't exactly give me enough reassurances this wouldn't be a $10,000 cost to me. Flunky the Hat professionally and promptly returned my e-mail saying he didn't think it would cost much. And, (AND) if I used his qualified handyman it should be a minimal cost. I am paraphrasing here, "minimal" might have a few too many syllables.
At any rate, I gave my blessing and told him to get it fixed. And what do you know! Flunky got back to me. The work was done in less than 24 hours. And, for the first time in Alabama property management history, the cost was under $100.
Tuesday, December 01, 2015
A Gazillion Less One
This is the second home we bought. Mr and Mrs. C lived here. Then Mr. Noble. Then another family who had a sweet little girl named Natalie and a dog named Rocky. Then the cop with the 640+ credit score and his girlfriend and their two babies. They were the ones who destroyed it.
I heard this house was supposed to have been auctioned off yesterday. I thought about it on and off through the day, wondering if someone bought it. Wondering what happens if nobody does.
It certainly didn't look like this when I saw it in March. For one thing, in this picture there are windows.
I no longer mourn specifically loosing this house. I am still sad. I feel like a looser. I have been told I am not one. I understand logically why decisions were made. But I failed. I will get over it eventually. But it will be years before we recoup this damage. And there will be at least one more home to go back to the bank. Hopefully only one more.
I really want someone to love this home. I want someone to sit out front on that gorgeous porch, looking out into the hills, sipping tea thinking about how lucky they are to have landed that house--their home. I want kids to splash around in the pond, looking for frogs. I want a little boy to chase a puppy through the woods. But overall, I want whomever ends up with this home can make it a happy place. It is time for something positive to happen there.
Monday, November 30, 2015
You Decide
So, this past month I have not made any good friends over at the ole' property management company. In fact, I am pretty sure when the phone over rings, and they see the Arizona area code, they all stare into space, kind of playing their own version receptionist "Chicken" to see who will answer it first.
To put things into perspective, Flunky (who has been tentatively promoted in my book lately from "Asshat" to "Hat") and I currently have most stable relationship over there. So, as you can see. I am not loved. But I don't care as long as they do what I pay them to do.
Which brings me to the other aspect of this month. I have a vacant home. It needs some maintenance. So, at the beginning of November, I asked for the power and water to be turned on at the home. I also asked for a key to be left in the lockbox and even verified the code (1966--because that is what it always is).
Two weeks later, when I had coordinated everything with my repair people, the locks had been changed again (this is after they had changed it in October). There was no key. There was no lockbox either. About that time I was going ballistic over the property management folks continuing to drop the ball and pretty much was black-listed from everyone's Christmas card list.
The week before Thanksgiving, I got a call from the maintenance company I hired. Would I please turn on the power and water? This was news to me. After all, I had requested this weeks ago. The maintenance company also asked if a lockbox could be put at the home so they could come and go. Another surprise, given I was specifically told this had been done.
Last week, I contacted Willy, asking if someone for the love of all things holy could please have the damn water and power turned on. After all, I had been asking for a month and had been told it was completed. I also asked if I could have a lockbox--like the one that had been there a week earlier--reinstalled so I could get my repair folks in the door.
Willy replied by telling me some intern was involved in this process. I wanted to ask if they taught "picking up the phone and calling the power company" in one of her college classes, but thought better of it. Willy also directed me to Flunky who swore a lockbox had been installed. I even confirmed the code with him the Wednesday before Thanksgiving: 1966? Yep. That's it.
Additionally, I got back to Willy on the Wednesday prior to Thanksgiving confirming the intern had earned her keep by making those two itsy bitsy phone calls. Why yes, of course the water and power are on! Don't be silly. After all, she is a college student.
Last Friday--the day after Thanksgiving--I found out there was indeed a lockbox. But the code wasn't 1966. After texting Flunky, he gave me 1995 and 1985. Nope.
I also texted Luigi saying, "I understand this is a holiday weekend, but I have people who have been held up a month by you folks waiting to get in the house and please have the one person who can figure out the lockbox code that has always been 1966 for the past three years contact me immediately." It turns out the code is now 1996.
Also, this 1955 house, apparently is impossible to break into unless one is shattering a window.
Once that drama was solved, the good folks at Make It Ready went in. Only to find out the water hadn't been turned on. According to Willy today, it was because it was a holiday week last week. I did not pursue this and ask if it had indeed been holiday weeks the last five weeks this request had been made. I figure I have done enough damage.
Marty Sunshine and Carolsue think this is retaliation for Hurricane Landlord a couple of weeks ago. I am leaning towards incompetence.
To put things into perspective, Flunky (who has been tentatively promoted in my book lately from "Asshat" to "Hat") and I currently have most stable relationship over there. So, as you can see. I am not loved. But I don't care as long as they do what I pay them to do.
Which brings me to the other aspect of this month. I have a vacant home. It needs some maintenance. So, at the beginning of November, I asked for the power and water to be turned on at the home. I also asked for a key to be left in the lockbox and even verified the code (1966--because that is what it always is).
Two weeks later, when I had coordinated everything with my repair people, the locks had been changed again (this is after they had changed it in October). There was no key. There was no lockbox either. About that time I was going ballistic over the property management folks continuing to drop the ball and pretty much was black-listed from everyone's Christmas card list.
The week before Thanksgiving, I got a call from the maintenance company I hired. Would I please turn on the power and water? This was news to me. After all, I had requested this weeks ago. The maintenance company also asked if a lockbox could be put at the home so they could come and go. Another surprise, given I was specifically told this had been done.
Last week, I contacted Willy, asking if someone for the love of all things holy could please have the damn water and power turned on. After all, I had been asking for a month and had been told it was completed. I also asked if I could have a lockbox--like the one that had been there a week earlier--reinstalled so I could get my repair folks in the door.
Willy replied by telling me some intern was involved in this process. I wanted to ask if they taught "picking up the phone and calling the power company" in one of her college classes, but thought better of it. Willy also directed me to Flunky who swore a lockbox had been installed. I even confirmed the code with him the Wednesday before Thanksgiving: 1966? Yep. That's it.
Additionally, I got back to Willy on the Wednesday prior to Thanksgiving confirming the intern had earned her keep by making those two itsy bitsy phone calls. Why yes, of course the water and power are on! Don't be silly. After all, she is a college student.
Last Friday--the day after Thanksgiving--I found out there was indeed a lockbox. But the code wasn't 1966. After texting Flunky, he gave me 1995 and 1985. Nope.
I also texted Luigi saying, "I understand this is a holiday weekend, but I have people who have been held up a month by you folks waiting to get in the house and please have the one person who can figure out the lockbox code that has always been 1966 for the past three years contact me immediately." It turns out the code is now 1996.
Also, this 1955 house, apparently is impossible to break into unless one is shattering a window.
Once that drama was solved, the good folks at Make It Ready went in. Only to find out the water hadn't been turned on. According to Willy today, it was because it was a holiday week last week. I did not pursue this and ask if it had indeed been holiday weeks the last five weeks this request had been made. I figure I have done enough damage.
Marty Sunshine and Carolsue think this is retaliation for Hurricane Landlord a couple of weeks ago. I am leaning towards incompetence.
Wednesday, November 25, 2015
I'm Not Taking the Heat for this One
A year ago, we closed our PO Box. Frankly at that point in our accidental business, the only mail I was getting was credit card solicitations and a mortgage statement for the home on Hysteria Lane. This particular home is in Mr. Partner's name. At the time, I closed it, I told Mr. Partner please call the bank and have the mortgage statements sent to either me or Bliz. I didn't care which. We just needed to make sure we could pay them.
Meanwhile, because I wasn't getting the bill for the home, and the mortgage was being paid automatically every month, I didn't give it much thought. I figured Mr. Partner has forwarded the statement to Bliz. Additionally, because Bliz and I have much, much more pressing items to discuss other than silly mortgage statements, it never came up. Why would it? To my knowledge, the mortgage was being paid.
But behind the scenes, months ago, Mr. Partner had started getting calls from this particular bank. And you know what he did? He ignored them. Yep. He didn't answer one call. Presumably, he also got mail to his home address (because, trust me on this one, when a bank wants money, they find every avenue to tell you that you are late).
Anyway, Mr. Partner got a phone call today. This time he didn't ignore it. And boy was he mad.
When he called Marty (thank God, he called Marty and not me), he wanted to make sure heads were rolling. Apparently there is a problem. What do you know? The payments we have been making for the past year are completely incorrect. In fact, because we have been shorting the payments for so long, the mortgage company has raised our payment amount significantly. Maybe it is just me, but it would have been nice to know this much, much sooner.
Of course, if the payments had been coming to me or Bliz all along, or if he had answered his phone or mail for the past few months this might have not been an issue at all.
Meanwhile, because I wasn't getting the bill for the home, and the mortgage was being paid automatically every month, I didn't give it much thought. I figured Mr. Partner has forwarded the statement to Bliz. Additionally, because Bliz and I have much, much more pressing items to discuss other than silly mortgage statements, it never came up. Why would it? To my knowledge, the mortgage was being paid.
But behind the scenes, months ago, Mr. Partner had started getting calls from this particular bank. And you know what he did? He ignored them. Yep. He didn't answer one call. Presumably, he also got mail to his home address (because, trust me on this one, when a bank wants money, they find every avenue to tell you that you are late).
Anyway, Mr. Partner got a phone call today. This time he didn't ignore it. And boy was he mad.
When he called Marty (thank God, he called Marty and not me), he wanted to make sure heads were rolling. Apparently there is a problem. What do you know? The payments we have been making for the past year are completely incorrect. In fact, because we have been shorting the payments for so long, the mortgage company has raised our payment amount significantly. Maybe it is just me, but it would have been nice to know this much, much sooner.
Of course, if the payments had been coming to me or Bliz all along, or if he had answered his phone or mail for the past few months this might have not been an issue at all.
Bittersweet
I got clarification on the new Maintenance hierarchy at the property management company. Flunky has been demoted to "Owner Coordinator" which means I still have to deal with him.
Fabio--whom Carolsue tells me is "totally hot"--is the new Maintenance Manager. His job is two-fold: he is to negotiate the best prices on the work and he is to do quality control over the vendors to make sure the work is done properly.
Fabio--whom Carolsue tells me is "totally hot"--is the new Maintenance Manager. His job is two-fold: he is to negotiate the best prices on the work and he is to do quality control over the vendors to make sure the work is done properly.
Tuesday, November 24, 2015
The Landlord Who Stole Christmas
To be quite honest, my hissy fit at the property management company last Friday was a consciously timed decision. My thought was pay up give 30 day move notices, which would put the offending deadbeats on the street (or probably moving) right before Christmas. And in my passive-aggressive Aries head, I was perfectly fine with this arrangement.
I should also state, that Willy, who is my main contact at the property management company, is not the person who has been collecting the rents, but then again, nobody has. But really, but in this case it is not Willy's department that deals with rent collection. So, my scathing conversation with him last week should have been at someone else--though I'm not sure who. Meanwhile, I have now been passed to Ms. Amy. I suspect I was passed to her because, either she was the one taking the partial payments, she drew the short straw or she felt brave enough to deal with me. Or all of the above. I have always liked Ms. Amy best at that company, so that works for me.
Back to my dilemma at hand. I have three tenants--all of them renting the three properties Marty Sunshine and I own without any partners--who seem to feel I am running a homeless shelter. In fact, they repeatedly pay late with no consequence. Of the three tenants, two of them are on month-to-month leases and can be given a 30 day notice at any time to haul their butts somewhere else, hence I waited until last week to stir up trouble.
My first stop in my tirade was to go after the the home (month to month) where the professional football player is living. I was pretty sure his girlfriend didn't want to move herself to an new home during his prime working season. By the way, she paid in full last Friday and has stated paying late will no longer be an issue. My tenant in Fultondale managed to pay a sizable payment this month, and their particular mortgage is the least expensive, so I will work on them in later.
However, Mrs. Martin (who is in a lease), has some zen payment schedule only known to her. Not only does she pay when she wants, she pays what she wants. For example, she was under the mistaken impression November's rent was only $150 and nothing else would be necessary for me to be a happy owner. If this were the first time she had played this game, I might have been sympathetic, but no. Frankly, Buckaroo turned 13 seven weeks ago and our weekly grocery bill has tripled since.
Anyway, Monday I found out Mrs. Martin got the message: pay up or leave. So, she wrote Ms. Amy an e-mail with a sob story. At the end of the very long list of excuses, she said she is more than happy to make payment arrangements by December 5 (a Saturday, mind you) and the rest--and I am not making this up--sometime "after Christmas." Ms. Amy asked if I was ok with this arrangement. Oh yes, lest I forget, Mrs. Martin also said the reason she is normally late is she gets her first paycheck of the month on the 16th. (I'm guessing the particular paycheck this month was only for $150.)
First, I was not ok with this arrangement. There was nothing in her e-mail that said she would pay by December 5, just that she would make arrangements. Second of all, there are a lot of days between "After Christmas 2015" and "After some random Christmas later in life."
After a bit of back and forth, here is what I finally agreed upon. She can pay the entire balance of what is owed to me in back rent by close of business December 4, 2015 (notice I added the year). I will not accept a penny less. Nor will I accept the payment on December 7, 2015 at 8:01 a.m. Legalowl is standing by and ready to evict and garnish her wages on December 7.
Additionally, she is not waiting until sometime after Christmas to pay December's rent. She is not going to go out and spend a bunch of money that is contractually owed to me on do-dads for her grandchildren and friends and then expect me to be understanding. No. She will have December's rent paid in full--along with late fees--by December 17. If she doesn't, please see the last sentence in the above paragraph.
I also told Ms. Amy, "From this point forward, rent will not be accepted if she pays after the fifth of any future month. Nor will it be accepted if it is one penny less than what she owes. No more deals. No more negotiating. This is her one and only chance. Merry Christmas to her."
This apparently was conveyed to Mrs. Martin (though I am sure Ms. Amy was a bit more polite). Mrs. Martin came back and said she would "break her back" to make sure rent was on time from now on. She didn't want to move.
I should also state, that Willy, who is my main contact at the property management company, is not the person who has been collecting the rents, but then again, nobody has. But really, but in this case it is not Willy's department that deals with rent collection. So, my scathing conversation with him last week should have been at someone else--though I'm not sure who. Meanwhile, I have now been passed to Ms. Amy. I suspect I was passed to her because, either she was the one taking the partial payments, she drew the short straw or she felt brave enough to deal with me. Or all of the above. I have always liked Ms. Amy best at that company, so that works for me.
Back to my dilemma at hand. I have three tenants--all of them renting the three properties Marty Sunshine and I own without any partners--who seem to feel I am running a homeless shelter. In fact, they repeatedly pay late with no consequence. Of the three tenants, two of them are on month-to-month leases and can be given a 30 day notice at any time to haul their butts somewhere else, hence I waited until last week to stir up trouble.
My first stop in my tirade was to go after the the home (month to month) where the professional football player is living. I was pretty sure his girlfriend didn't want to move herself to an new home during his prime working season. By the way, she paid in full last Friday and has stated paying late will no longer be an issue. My tenant in Fultondale managed to pay a sizable payment this month, and their particular mortgage is the least expensive, so I will work on them in later.
However, Mrs. Martin (who is in a lease), has some zen payment schedule only known to her. Not only does she pay when she wants, she pays what she wants. For example, she was under the mistaken impression November's rent was only $150 and nothing else would be necessary for me to be a happy owner. If this were the first time she had played this game, I might have been sympathetic, but no. Frankly, Buckaroo turned 13 seven weeks ago and our weekly grocery bill has tripled since.
Anyway, Monday I found out Mrs. Martin got the message: pay up or leave. So, she wrote Ms. Amy an e-mail with a sob story. At the end of the very long list of excuses, she said she is more than happy to make payment arrangements by December 5 (a Saturday, mind you) and the rest--and I am not making this up--sometime "after Christmas." Ms. Amy asked if I was ok with this arrangement. Oh yes, lest I forget, Mrs. Martin also said the reason she is normally late is she gets her first paycheck of the month on the 16th. (I'm guessing the particular paycheck this month was only for $150.)
First, I was not ok with this arrangement. There was nothing in her e-mail that said she would pay by December 5, just that she would make arrangements. Second of all, there are a lot of days between "After Christmas 2015" and "After some random Christmas later in life."
After a bit of back and forth, here is what I finally agreed upon. She can pay the entire balance of what is owed to me in back rent by close of business December 4, 2015 (notice I added the year). I will not accept a penny less. Nor will I accept the payment on December 7, 2015 at 8:01 a.m. Legalowl is standing by and ready to evict and garnish her wages on December 7.
Additionally, she is not waiting until sometime after Christmas to pay December's rent. She is not going to go out and spend a bunch of money that is contractually owed to me on do-dads for her grandchildren and friends and then expect me to be understanding. No. She will have December's rent paid in full--along with late fees--by December 17. If she doesn't, please see the last sentence in the above paragraph.
I also told Ms. Amy, "From this point forward, rent will not be accepted if she pays after the fifth of any future month. Nor will it be accepted if it is one penny less than what she owes. No more deals. No more negotiating. This is her one and only chance. Merry Christmas to her."
This apparently was conveyed to Mrs. Martin (though I am sure Ms. Amy was a bit more polite). Mrs. Martin came back and said she would "break her back" to make sure rent was on time from now on. She didn't want to move.
Monday, November 23, 2015
This Just In
Luigi sent me an e-mail today. He is restructuring. AND Flunky the Asshat Maintenance Manager is no longer the Maintenance Manager. Not sure if he is still employed, but frankly anyone else has to be a vast improvement.
Sunday, November 22, 2015
Not Sure They Are Calling Me "A Dream Owner" Anymore
Last Friday I got into a scathing argument with Willy at Luigi's office. My complaint is that he has let my tenants slide with making partial payments and there has been no consequence to the tenants so they continue to do so. His response was "perhaps we have differing opinions of what property managers do."
Perhaps we do. And I told him so. I also told him in my definition, a property manager has a fiduciary responsibility to protect their client's assets. Because the property manager works for the owner, not the tenant. At least that is the legal definition in 49 other states. I also wrote a lot of other things that included "I am not running a homeless shelter." And if truth be told, I yelled a lot of other things that it is probably a good thing Willy didn't hear through cyber space.
I also e-mailed Luigi saying that if I (again) have to manage my properties and, in this case, his staff, please just put me on the payroll. I would love to tell you that was well received. But no.
In fact, my comments were so poorly received that Willy the Coward started having another person in the office answer my e-mails. However, I did make headway. One tenant, who was told that she was facing immediate eviction if she didn't haul her butt down to the property management office immediately, actually paid up.
The other tenant--the worst offended--still thinks I am kidding apparently because she didn't do anything. Why would she? Willy hasn't stuck up for me this long. So, tomorrow it is a call to LegalOwl, letting her know to evict this chick. She can find another owner to screw over.
Perhaps we do. And I told him so. I also told him in my definition, a property manager has a fiduciary responsibility to protect their client's assets. Because the property manager works for the owner, not the tenant. At least that is the legal definition in 49 other states. I also wrote a lot of other things that included "I am not running a homeless shelter." And if truth be told, I yelled a lot of other things that it is probably a good thing Willy didn't hear through cyber space.
I also e-mailed Luigi saying that if I (again) have to manage my properties and, in this case, his staff, please just put me on the payroll. I would love to tell you that was well received. But no.
In fact, my comments were so poorly received that Willy the Coward started having another person in the office answer my e-mails. However, I did make headway. One tenant, who was told that she was facing immediate eviction if she didn't haul her butt down to the property management office immediately, actually paid up.
The other tenant--the worst offended--still thinks I am kidding apparently because she didn't do anything. Why would she? Willy hasn't stuck up for me this long. So, tomorrow it is a call to LegalOwl, letting her know to evict this chick. She can find another owner to screw over.
Thursday, November 19, 2015
Done. Done. Done.
It appears there is administrative red tape for our deed in lieu of foreclosure.
Issue Number 1: "The appraiser can't access the property." I find this hard to believe for the following reasons:
1. The property management company has been more than willing to give out the keys, but nobody has come by.
2. There is a lock box on the property and I have given out the code to everyone East of the Mississippi who wants it (1966 if you care).
3. The house is missing the garage door.
4. The house is missing almost every window.
I am certain between reasons 1 and 4, someone can find their way into this house if they really want to go in it.
Issue Number 2:
Some lawyer somewhere wants a signed statement from our former partners saying they agree to this foreclosure. Good luck with that. They haven't been our partners since 2007. They may or may not be living in this country. If not, they are in Asia somewhere. In order for them to sign (and notarize) they would have to find an American Consulate. And the letter would have to be back before close of business next Wednesday. Yeah, that's not happening.
Because of these issues, our deed in lieu has become a judicial foreclosure. At this point, I just don't care.
Issue Number 1: "The appraiser can't access the property." I find this hard to believe for the following reasons:
1. The property management company has been more than willing to give out the keys, but nobody has come by.
2. There is a lock box on the property and I have given out the code to everyone East of the Mississippi who wants it (1966 if you care).
3. The house is missing the garage door.
4. The house is missing almost every window.
I am certain between reasons 1 and 4, someone can find their way into this house if they really want to go in it.
Issue Number 2:
Some lawyer somewhere wants a signed statement from our former partners saying they agree to this foreclosure. Good luck with that. They haven't been our partners since 2007. They may or may not be living in this country. If not, they are in Asia somewhere. In order for them to sign (and notarize) they would have to find an American Consulate. And the letter would have to be back before close of business next Wednesday. Yeah, that's not happening.
Because of these issues, our deed in lieu has become a judicial foreclosure. At this point, I just don't care.
I'm Thinking Serial Killers Need Not Apply
It is rental season around here. Yes, I am up to my armpits in showing rentals this week. The 13 year old is perpetually hungry, so rentals it is. Anyway, I was looking for a rental for a client of mine. In the private realtor remarks I found the following qualifications the owner would accept.
"For a more smooth application process: Be sure to have client prepared with proof of income (Bank statements or pay stubs) and letters from previous landlords *** Please make sure that your clients have MINIMUM credit scores of 550, make Minimum 2.5x monthly rent, no evictions in the past 7 years, and a minimal criminal history."
Monday, November 16, 2015
Yes. Really.
And speaking of ways not to rent a home...
Please don't call me, wanting to rent a home and then disclose you are self employed. When I inquire what kind of business you say "growing herbs."
No. No. No.
Please don't call me, wanting to rent a home and then disclose you are self employed. When I inquire what kind of business you say "growing herbs."
No. No. No.
Sunday, November 15, 2015
How Not To Rent A Home
It's been a while since I covered this particular topic, but apparently it bears repeating. Unfortunately, the people who need to hear it the most don't read this blog.
If you are looking for a rental property, it is in your best interest to make a positive first impression. When I show homes, I coach prospective tenants on this. It is amazing how many of them need a quick charm-school lesson. But, that is for another blog.
Currently, I have two rental homes listed for rent for Arizona clients. They are--and I am not making this up--80 miles apart and still in the same county. Both homes are fantastic and have a lot of pluses, especially as far as rentals go. Both owners are requiring the same from prospective tenants: no evictions, no felonies, must currently earn three times the monthly rent and finally, no pets.
Let me repeat that last part: no pets. Frankly--as much as I like animals--I don't see why any landlord would allow pets. Ever. I also know there may come a time sooner than later where I have to rent and my cat comes with me. Hopefully, I can find the one landlord who will be so gracious as to make an exception. But it won't be my two clients. And I don't blame them a bit. And for that matter, I don't allow pets in my rental homes either.
That said, the number of calls and e-mails I get daily is increasing as I get closer to the middle of the month. "Will you allow section 8" (That was for the 3,500 square foot $1,900 rental I have in the West Valley). No. And your Section 8 voucher will only give you $1100.
"I have an eviction but it wasn't my fault?" Was your name on the lease? Then you have an eviction.
"My husband and I are both felons." Was it for drunk driving? "No." Let's see... the main types of felonies are drugs, crimes against people, crimes against property. If it wasn't for a DUI, it was probably for one of the three formerly mentioned. I understand you have done your time. But do your former (or current?) felon friends understand you have done your time and will they come looking for you in my client's home? For that matter, though you may have paid your debt to society, how do my clients know you have changed your lifestyle?
"Currently making three times the rent--gross" isn't really that crazy of a requirement. It is even for the the tenant's own protection. If they make that much, they can afford the house, if they don't, they will probably end up with an eviction on their record. I am floored at the number of folks calling me lately who can't multiply times three. I am even more floored at the number of unemployed folks calling me saying they don't have a job, but need somewhere to live and will the owner just give them a chance. I often give them the name of a few charities to help people in their situation until they get back on their feet. My owners have assets. They want them protected. They aren't running a homeless shelter.
And of course, back to the pets. "It is a little dog." "It is a sweet cat." yep. But they are still furry critters and the owners said no. "But if you would just ask....?" I asked. They said no to the last six people who have four legged family members. No.
While we are on the subject or prospective tenants, please don't call me at 8 a.m. on a Sunday, using big flowery words instead of the usual cultural vernacular. It tries my patience.
Today's call went like this:
"Would you be willing to take it upon yourself to allow us access into your rental at some time of mutual convenience so that we may ascertain whether or not it would be suitable habitation for us?" (barf).
Me: The owner is not allowing pets, felons, evictions and you must make three times the rent. Do you fit this criteria?
Tenant: Will the owner make an exception, as we have a charming American Bulldog.
Me: So, you have have a pitbull.
In all fairness, the woman sort of gasped when I suggested no felons too. But either way, there wouldn't be a time of mutual convenience where they could see the house.
If you are looking for a rental property, it is in your best interest to make a positive first impression. When I show homes, I coach prospective tenants on this. It is amazing how many of them need a quick charm-school lesson. But, that is for another blog.
Currently, I have two rental homes listed for rent for Arizona clients. They are--and I am not making this up--80 miles apart and still in the same county. Both homes are fantastic and have a lot of pluses, especially as far as rentals go. Both owners are requiring the same from prospective tenants: no evictions, no felonies, must currently earn three times the monthly rent and finally, no pets.
Let me repeat that last part: no pets. Frankly--as much as I like animals--I don't see why any landlord would allow pets. Ever. I also know there may come a time sooner than later where I have to rent and my cat comes with me. Hopefully, I can find the one landlord who will be so gracious as to make an exception. But it won't be my two clients. And I don't blame them a bit. And for that matter, I don't allow pets in my rental homes either.
That said, the number of calls and e-mails I get daily is increasing as I get closer to the middle of the month. "Will you allow section 8" (That was for the 3,500 square foot $1,900 rental I have in the West Valley). No. And your Section 8 voucher will only give you $1100.
"I have an eviction but it wasn't my fault?" Was your name on the lease? Then you have an eviction.
"My husband and I are both felons." Was it for drunk driving? "No." Let's see... the main types of felonies are drugs, crimes against people, crimes against property. If it wasn't for a DUI, it was probably for one of the three formerly mentioned. I understand you have done your time. But do your former (or current?) felon friends understand you have done your time and will they come looking for you in my client's home? For that matter, though you may have paid your debt to society, how do my clients know you have changed your lifestyle?
"Currently making three times the rent--gross" isn't really that crazy of a requirement. It is even for the the tenant's own protection. If they make that much, they can afford the house, if they don't, they will probably end up with an eviction on their record. I am floored at the number of folks calling me lately who can't multiply times three. I am even more floored at the number of unemployed folks calling me saying they don't have a job, but need somewhere to live and will the owner just give them a chance. I often give them the name of a few charities to help people in their situation until they get back on their feet. My owners have assets. They want them protected. They aren't running a homeless shelter.
And of course, back to the pets. "It is a little dog." "It is a sweet cat." yep. But they are still furry critters and the owners said no. "But if you would just ask....?" I asked. They said no to the last six people who have four legged family members. No.
While we are on the subject or prospective tenants, please don't call me at 8 a.m. on a Sunday, using big flowery words instead of the usual cultural vernacular. It tries my patience.
Today's call went like this:
"Would you be willing to take it upon yourself to allow us access into your rental at some time of mutual convenience so that we may ascertain whether or not it would be suitable habitation for us?" (barf).
Me: The owner is not allowing pets, felons, evictions and you must make three times the rent. Do you fit this criteria?
Tenant: Will the owner make an exception, as we have a charming American Bulldog.
Me: So, you have have a pitbull.
In all fairness, the woman sort of gasped when I suggested no felons too. But either way, there wouldn't be a time of mutual convenience where they could see the house.
Saturday, November 07, 2015
On the Fence
Today's ole' Blog is courtesy of our favorite Maintenance Manager who sent me photos of a repair he allegedly completed at my home in Alabaster. Apparently there was an issue with the fence leaning over a few weeks ago. I have heard nothing since and just figured someone would get to it when the tenant squawked loud enough.
And, because this week I once again ran to Luigi and offered my two cents about the level of service his company was offering, Flunky opted to be Flunky on the Spot. He apparently got sick of hearing the tenant squawk or decided to curry favor in my camp (who am I kidding) and send me a follow up e-mail about how the work has been completed, and please see the photos.
Is this "completed?" You decide.
To be fair, he sent me about five variations of this photo. This was the best of the bunch.
For some reason, he also sent me these two as well.
And, because this week I once again ran to Luigi and offered my two cents about the level of service his company was offering, Flunky opted to be Flunky on the Spot. He apparently got sick of hearing the tenant squawk or decided to curry favor in my camp (who am I kidding) and send me a follow up e-mail about how the work has been completed, and please see the photos.
Is this "completed?" You decide.
To be fair, he sent me about five variations of this photo. This was the best of the bunch.
For some reason, he also sent me these two as well.
I did write back to Flunky (and CC Luigi) suggesting that surely he did more than just use my money to prop up the fence with two freestanding posts. These are the before photos, right? And if so, would he please send over the "after" pictures as well?
And don't ask me about these last two pictures that he included. I recognize the one as the interior of my home in Alabaster (and I believe that is a rug that once belonged to the first tenant who lived there in 2006). And other seems to be a truck bed with various junk strewn about.
I don't expect a response to my e-mail this weekend (or for that matter, at all). What I really hope Flunky is doing instead of responding is actually fixing the fence this time.
Friday, November 06, 2015
Ooops He Did It Again
So, Flunky sent me a quote to make my vacant home rent-ready. The lovely quote for $3,700 included such items as "waxing the floors" and "removing the vine from the side of the home." When I saw the quote, I wrote the most polite and professional e-mail I could muster.
I asked Flunky if all the items on the list were necessary and could he please give me a bare-bones quote instead, because I know Mr. Partner will never agree to $3,700 (and neither would I). Now, you see what I did here? I allowed Flunky a chance to save face. Give me a better quote and we will both be happy.
But Flunky the Asshat Maintenance Manager didn't come by his name accidentally. Instead, Flunky wrote me back, telling me all of the items were indeed necessary to make the home rent-ready and if I knew a thing or two about property management, I would know not to question his superior intellect. Or, something to that affect.
Instead, I made two decisions. The first one was to find someone else to do the work. And what do you know! I found a quote for significantly less money. In fact, it is 60 percent less. Additionally, it is from someone I know and trust over in Birmingham.
The second item on my to-do list was to forward Flunky's e-mail to Luigi, explaining that once again, Flunky lost Luigi some money. After all, this is Luigi's maintenance company too. I explained the Flunky's quote seemed like fluffy-bunny stuff with a huge price tag. I said I am getting same work done for much less from an outside vendor. And, this was someone I knew and trusted, so it isn't like I just went to Craigslist and tried my luck on the first sober person who picked up the phone.
I asked Flunky if all the items on the list were necessary and could he please give me a bare-bones quote instead, because I know Mr. Partner will never agree to $3,700 (and neither would I). Now, you see what I did here? I allowed Flunky a chance to save face. Give me a better quote and we will both be happy.
But Flunky the Asshat Maintenance Manager didn't come by his name accidentally. Instead, Flunky wrote me back, telling me all of the items were indeed necessary to make the home rent-ready and if I knew a thing or two about property management, I would know not to question his superior intellect. Or, something to that affect.
Instead, I made two decisions. The first one was to find someone else to do the work. And what do you know! I found a quote for significantly less money. In fact, it is 60 percent less. Additionally, it is from someone I know and trust over in Birmingham.
The second item on my to-do list was to forward Flunky's e-mail to Luigi, explaining that once again, Flunky lost Luigi some money. After all, this is Luigi's maintenance company too. I explained the Flunky's quote seemed like fluffy-bunny stuff with a huge price tag. I said I am getting same work done for much less from an outside vendor. And, this was someone I knew and trusted, so it isn't like I just went to Craigslist and tried my luck on the first sober person who picked up the phone.
I understand everything has a cost and time isn't free. Flunky's time is valuable too and I am sure he doesn't want to spend hours figuring out what needs to be done only to have his price undercut. Nor do I appreciate spending hours on the phone having someone give me a better price. I have other things to do too and after all, that is why I hired a property management company to begin with.
Truth be told, I don't want Flunky touching my houses. And it appears he doesn't want to work anyway.
Thursday, November 05, 2015
The Tale of Two Foreclosures (part 2)
Though the Pinson Foreclosure is going extraordinarily well, the same can't be said for the foreclosure in North Birmingham.
Ironically, this home would not be in foreclosure if the bank hadn't called the second mortgage due last year for no reason. The months we fought that, coupled with the tenant moving out, the property needing some TLC (which equates to an influx of cash we didn't have) to make it move-in ready, caused a snowball affect we just couldn't recover from. If only one of those items had happened: the second loan being called due or the tenant moving out, we probably would have fought our way back up.
This particular home has a first and second mortgage with the same bank. At the same time we decided to let this one go as well as the Pinson home, the mortgage company came to us and said, "We have agreed to modify your loan. Yay you."
Last April when I explained to the Asset Manager it was too little, too late, he gave me my options: have a short sale with the agent of our choosing or let the home go into foreclosure. He assured me a foreclosure was a very, very bad choice and I would be better off going the (cough-cough) short sale route. But it was my decision.
As we were talking that day last April, he told me he had just pulled up Marty Sunshine's credit and was shocked we were making the decision to let the home go. He explicitly implied (can one explicitly imply?) that we must have money somewhere and why don't we act like grow ups, suck it up and pay what we owe and keep the house. I told him we would if we could. And perhaps if his bank had not called the loan due, or even modified it months earlier instead of repeatedly asking for the same documents, we could have pulled it off. But by then, we were out of money. Our home was vacant and we did not have the capital to make it rent-ready.
Since then, the Asset Manager's name has been changed to the Bigoted Ass. Manager. Which, by the way, he is. Kirby was our agent for this short sale. The Bigoted Ass. Manager told me I should find one who understands the neighborhood better and "the kind of people" who would want a home like I had in "special neighborhoods."
Kirby worked his buns off and brought in four cash offers. The Bigoted Ass. Manager's imaginary committee said they would only consider one of the offers if Marty and I brought several thousand dollars more than our loan obligation to the table. They asked us to sign a promissory note--which I suppose we could have signed, but we didn't have the money to pay it anyway and didn't want to take on that debt.
We then asked to do a deed in lieu of foreclose. The Ass. Manager sent me an awe shucks e-mail saying we really didn't want to do that and gee whiz, he didn't know how to do one anyway. So, no.
At that point, Legal Owl told us to ignore the bank. They would eventually figure out we weren't paying. She also said to pay the taxes and insurance on the property, but I am not sure that's a good idea. We paid the insurance last July. In my opinion, the Bigoted Ass. Manager took that to mean we were playing games with the mortgage company. We were just trying to be responsible.
Last week we got a letter from some attorney who is representing the bank. The letter went on to state the bank is starting a judicial foreclosure process. It seems silly to me, but whatever. Marty Sunshine called the attorney and asked her if we could just do a deed in lieu of foreclosure. It would be faster and cheaper for all involved. After all, we are happy to cooperate and they can have keys at any time. The attorney agreed and asked who we had been working with at the bank. Marty cheerfully supplied the attorney with the Bigoted Ass. Manger's contact info.
The attorney called us back yesterday, absolutely floored. Not only would the Bigoted Ass. Manager not agree to any easy way to make this end, apparently this guy is trying to stick it to us. He told the attorney unless we agree to pay what we owe or sign a promissory note, they will just do a judicial foreclosure. She didn't say it seemed personal, but that is what was explicitly implied.
Ironically, this home would not be in foreclosure if the bank hadn't called the second mortgage due last year for no reason. The months we fought that, coupled with the tenant moving out, the property needing some TLC (which equates to an influx of cash we didn't have) to make it move-in ready, caused a snowball affect we just couldn't recover from. If only one of those items had happened: the second loan being called due or the tenant moving out, we probably would have fought our way back up.
This particular home has a first and second mortgage with the same bank. At the same time we decided to let this one go as well as the Pinson home, the mortgage company came to us and said, "We have agreed to modify your loan. Yay you."
Last April when I explained to the Asset Manager it was too little, too late, he gave me my options: have a short sale with the agent of our choosing or let the home go into foreclosure. He assured me a foreclosure was a very, very bad choice and I would be better off going the (cough-cough) short sale route. But it was my decision.
As we were talking that day last April, he told me he had just pulled up Marty Sunshine's credit and was shocked we were making the decision to let the home go. He explicitly implied (can one explicitly imply?) that we must have money somewhere and why don't we act like grow ups, suck it up and pay what we owe and keep the house. I told him we would if we could. And perhaps if his bank had not called the loan due, or even modified it months earlier instead of repeatedly asking for the same documents, we could have pulled it off. But by then, we were out of money. Our home was vacant and we did not have the capital to make it rent-ready.
Since then, the Asset Manager's name has been changed to the Bigoted Ass. Manager. Which, by the way, he is. Kirby was our agent for this short sale. The Bigoted Ass. Manager told me I should find one who understands the neighborhood better and "the kind of people" who would want a home like I had in "special neighborhoods."
Kirby worked his buns off and brought in four cash offers. The Bigoted Ass. Manager's imaginary committee said they would only consider one of the offers if Marty and I brought several thousand dollars more than our loan obligation to the table. They asked us to sign a promissory note--which I suppose we could have signed, but we didn't have the money to pay it anyway and didn't want to take on that debt.
We then asked to do a deed in lieu of foreclose. The Ass. Manager sent me an awe shucks e-mail saying we really didn't want to do that and gee whiz, he didn't know how to do one anyway. So, no.
At that point, Legal Owl told us to ignore the bank. They would eventually figure out we weren't paying. She also said to pay the taxes and insurance on the property, but I am not sure that's a good idea. We paid the insurance last July. In my opinion, the Bigoted Ass. Manager took that to mean we were playing games with the mortgage company. We were just trying to be responsible.
Last week we got a letter from some attorney who is representing the bank. The letter went on to state the bank is starting a judicial foreclosure process. It seems silly to me, but whatever. Marty Sunshine called the attorney and asked her if we could just do a deed in lieu of foreclosure. It would be faster and cheaper for all involved. After all, we are happy to cooperate and they can have keys at any time. The attorney agreed and asked who we had been working with at the bank. Marty cheerfully supplied the attorney with the Bigoted Ass. Manger's contact info.
The attorney called us back yesterday, absolutely floored. Not only would the Bigoted Ass. Manager not agree to any easy way to make this end, apparently this guy is trying to stick it to us. He told the attorney unless we agree to pay what we owe or sign a promissory note, they will just do a judicial foreclosure. She didn't say it seemed personal, but that is what was explicitly implied.
Wednesday, November 04, 2015
The Tale of Two Foreclosures (part 1)
The saga of the home in Pinson will soon be coming to an end. This charming three bedroom home is nestled in a small rural mountain area, situated on two acres. Though the porch spans the front of the home, after the main back yard, there just happens to be a little pond out yonder.
The idiot couple with the 640+ credit score who moved in last year trashed the place, skirted the law, didn't pay rent and stayed for a year. I finally got to see the place this past March. While the tenant was giving me some sob story about how awful her life was and how it was her boyfriend who caused all the damage, I was quickly calculating how much money I would have to bring in to fix the place. When I mentally hit $40k, I stopped counting, had a semi-serious panic attack and immediately went back to the car. I knew insurance would not give us anywhere near that amount to make the place habitable. We had drained our savings paying for homes deadbeats had ruined so that we could keep our credit intact.
Credit be damned. We couldn't do it any more. It wasn't a decision we entered into lightly, but we opted to stop paying the mortgage. We contacted mortgage folks and asked what we needed to do to give the home back as peacefully and as quickly as possible. Please! Just take it.
It is now six months later. I have worked with several people at the mortgage company, including a woman named "NayNay" who apparently only answered e-mails, not phone calls, and seemed to have a serious aversion to good punctuation and grammar. For the last couple of months, we have been working with Jonathan. He returns calls and e-mails and has been spot on with his assistance.
We also have a second mortgage on this particular home. Representatives call me twice every day. Seven days a week. These representatives aren't very nice. In fact, one even told me if I would just stop drinking Starbucks I could afford to pay the mortgage. Oh... if only I could afford Starbucks right now.
Even with the idiot representatives at the second mortgage company, this has been a relatively smooth process. In fact, if this was the only time in my life I was going into foreclosure, I would say the process was streamlined and everyone (sans the snarky folks from India who work for the second mortgage company) was professional and polite.
By the way, our foreclosure sale is November 30, just in case you want a sweet little home nestled in the mountains with a lovely view and a pond.
The idiot couple with the 640+ credit score who moved in last year trashed the place, skirted the law, didn't pay rent and stayed for a year. I finally got to see the place this past March. While the tenant was giving me some sob story about how awful her life was and how it was her boyfriend who caused all the damage, I was quickly calculating how much money I would have to bring in to fix the place. When I mentally hit $40k, I stopped counting, had a semi-serious panic attack and immediately went back to the car. I knew insurance would not give us anywhere near that amount to make the place habitable. We had drained our savings paying for homes deadbeats had ruined so that we could keep our credit intact.
Credit be damned. We couldn't do it any more. It wasn't a decision we entered into lightly, but we opted to stop paying the mortgage. We contacted mortgage folks and asked what we needed to do to give the home back as peacefully and as quickly as possible. Please! Just take it.
It is now six months later. I have worked with several people at the mortgage company, including a woman named "NayNay" who apparently only answered e-mails, not phone calls, and seemed to have a serious aversion to good punctuation and grammar. For the last couple of months, we have been working with Jonathan. He returns calls and e-mails and has been spot on with his assistance.
We also have a second mortgage on this particular home. Representatives call me twice every day. Seven days a week. These representatives aren't very nice. In fact, one even told me if I would just stop drinking Starbucks I could afford to pay the mortgage. Oh... if only I could afford Starbucks right now.
Even with the idiot representatives at the second mortgage company, this has been a relatively smooth process. In fact, if this was the only time in my life I was going into foreclosure, I would say the process was streamlined and everyone (sans the snarky folks from India who work for the second mortgage company) was professional and polite.
By the way, our foreclosure sale is November 30, just in case you want a sweet little home nestled in the mountains with a lovely view and a pond.
Friday, October 30, 2015
And, The Rest of the Story
Late last Tuesday night, fresh from the Bernice drama of last two days, I called Carolsue. After asking the property management company to drop everything and take care of me, Bernice had just blown me off. Though she has rented all of her life, she apparently wasn't expecting to part with a security deposit. That Tuesday night, I was tired and frustrated. And, I just wanted to vent to someone about how much I absolutely hate being a potential landlord to crazy people. And more importantly, how did I screw up my karma so badly that crazies are attracted my way?
That's when Carolsue dropped this little nugget on me. While she was working on the steps at the house Monday (helping me get ready for Wednesday's rental), and while Flunky's crew was over there changing the locks, replacing the broken window and fixing the drywall in the bathroom, Bernice just happened to pop by. I guess she had nothing better to do with her entire afternoon except channel her inner contractor, because she walked around, overseeing the work, telling everyone how she was moving in two days later. She asked the crew if they would fix this? And would they take care of that? Thankfully, the crew told her that was up to the owner to decide. Hence, this explains why I was getting a ton of texts asking about maintenance from Bernice.
But, that's not all. Because Bernice was telling everyone how she moving in (she had neglected drive over to the property management company and fill out an application at this point, much less be approved), one member of Flunky's crew gave her a key to my freshly re-keyed home. Apparently he just figured she said she was moving in, it must be true. I am sure he was doing it as a favor to all involved and had the best of intentions.
However, when Carolsue told me this Tuesday night, I stroked out.
To put this in perspective: some chick who has to be out of her home by Wednesday now has a key to my house. What is to stop her from making up a fake lease and and just moving herself in? This was a potential nightmare (actually it was a true nightmare, because that is what I dreamed of that night). This scenario, happens more often then you think. Squatters are hard to get rid of. And with the Alabama court system so darn slow, getting rid of someone with a key and a fake lease could take a year--if she moved on her own. and frankly, with an open bankruptcy and an eviction, Bernice has nothing too loose. So, while I was on the phone with Carolsue, I was frantically e-mailing everyone in Luigi's organization whom I had an e-mail address, explaining the enormity of the situation.
Then, very early Wednesday morning Jeff from Luigi's office called. And when I re-iterated how a member of Flunky's crew illegally gave out a key to my home, Jeff said--and I am not making this up: "That's the craziest thing I ever heard."
I couldn't help myself. My filter was gone as I incredulously replied, "Seriously Jeff? You have been in property management for at least a year and that's the craziest thing you ever heard?"
That's when Carolsue dropped this little nugget on me. While she was working on the steps at the house Monday (helping me get ready for Wednesday's rental), and while Flunky's crew was over there changing the locks, replacing the broken window and fixing the drywall in the bathroom, Bernice just happened to pop by. I guess she had nothing better to do with her entire afternoon except channel her inner contractor, because she walked around, overseeing the work, telling everyone how she was moving in two days later. She asked the crew if they would fix this? And would they take care of that? Thankfully, the crew told her that was up to the owner to decide. Hence, this explains why I was getting a ton of texts asking about maintenance from Bernice.
But, that's not all. Because Bernice was telling everyone how she moving in (she had neglected drive over to the property management company and fill out an application at this point, much less be approved), one member of Flunky's crew gave her a key to my freshly re-keyed home. Apparently he just figured she said she was moving in, it must be true. I am sure he was doing it as a favor to all involved and had the best of intentions.
However, when Carolsue told me this Tuesday night, I stroked out.
To put this in perspective: some chick who has to be out of her home by Wednesday now has a key to my house. What is to stop her from making up a fake lease and and just moving herself in? This was a potential nightmare (actually it was a true nightmare, because that is what I dreamed of that night). This scenario, happens more often then you think. Squatters are hard to get rid of. And with the Alabama court system so darn slow, getting rid of someone with a key and a fake lease could take a year--if she moved on her own. and frankly, with an open bankruptcy and an eviction, Bernice has nothing too loose. So, while I was on the phone with Carolsue, I was frantically e-mailing everyone in Luigi's organization whom I had an e-mail address, explaining the enormity of the situation.
Then, very early Wednesday morning Jeff from Luigi's office called. And when I re-iterated how a member of Flunky's crew illegally gave out a key to my home, Jeff said--and I am not making this up: "That's the craziest thing I ever heard."
I couldn't help myself. My filter was gone as I incredulously replied, "Seriously Jeff? You have been in property management for at least a year and that's the craziest thing you ever heard?"
Thursday, October 29, 2015
That Tuesday
Tuesday came around, Bernice sauntered in to Luigi's office and happily filled out the application to rent my home. It was the quietest 15 minutes of my day. Because, as soon as she was done, she then continued to text me asking for all sorts of items to be fixed. Many were cosmetic. And many more were ridiculous. But, in truth, the home wasn't move-in ready, I gave her a break on the rent for the first month and told her we would call it even.
At the same time the texts from Bernice were coming in, e-mails from Flunky the Maintenance Asshat were coming in to me, giving me updates on what a spectacular job his crew was doing at this house. I have never, ever, received updates from Flunky before on any job, or frankly, since.
Flunky's e-mails sent a spark of guilt through me. What I asked of everyone there was a major imposition. It was a fire drill. Please stop what you are doing, get my home ready to rent and approve my tenant in record time. I knew what I was asking when I was doing it, and I am beyond grateful they stepped up. They didn't have to. And they probably won't again--but I am getting ahead of myself.
So, back to Bernice. A credit and background check revealed that Good O'le Bernice has an open bankruptcy. She also has a fresh--like less than two month's ago--eviction she had neglected to mention to me. I had asked her some basic questions on Sunday when I was talking to her and somehow she forgot to mention these two itsy-bitsy issues. Certainly she revealed she had bruised credit but she neglected to tell me about the two absolute-I-will-not-rent-to-you-EVER deal killers. She also told me she made three times the monthly rent. And, as expected at this point, apparently Bernice's best subject in school wasn't math.
When I called Bernice back (she feigned surprise she had an eviction--how does one not know this??? and furthermore how stupid did she think I was that she thought I would believe she didn't know she had been summoned in front of a judge?) I said, "Tell me right now why I should rent to you." At which point, Bernice gave me a lovely song and dance about why she was worth taking a chance on. I wasn't convinced. Jeff, Luigi's leasing agent, agreed with me. Bernice was not worth it.
However, this home belongs to four people: The Partners, Marty Sunshine and me. As I am only one-fourth of the vote, I was over-ruled. The truth is, most likely if we don't put Bernice in this house, we are putting a Section 8 crack whore in there. In some ways, Bernice with her open bankruptcy and six-week old eviction looked a lot prettier than what else we could expect. At least that was Marty Sunshine's thinking. Essentially, we could at least get Bernice to baby-sit this particular home at least through the holidays. It wasn't that I agreed, I just saw the other side of the coin: I know what could expect from this neighborhood. Heck, even counting my home in Pinson (in foreclosure) this was the home that has been trashed the worst. At least Bernice didn't seem like the type to trash it.
When push came to shove, Marty Sunshine over-ruled me. I made him send me an e-mail saying I had no say in the matter and if this turned out to be the train-wreck I was expecting it to be, I am absolved of all responsibility.
I then called back Bernice, told her she was approved. I told her I wasn't messing around. One wrong move and she was out in the street (right... like I can make that stick). I did my best to sound like the grumpy curmudgeon I had become that day. She replied with several variations of "Thank you Mrs. Landlord. I will take great care of your place. Thank you. Thank you." She then spared my cell minutes but continually followed up with additional texts with the same sentiment.
Once I gave the astonished ("Seriously, you are going to rent to her? Have you lost your mind?") Jeff the green light to approve her. He called Bernice and told her to come in Wednesday morning and sign the lease. He went over the terms and conditions. What her move-in up front money would be. He reminded Bernice I had given her a reduction in rent and wasn't I just awesome? Apparently Bernice was thrilled--at least that is what the leasing agent told me.
Long around 7 p.m. my time that night, Bernice sent me yet another text. She wasn't moving in. Because, even though she had to be out of her apartment by the next morning, it turns out she didn't have the security deposit. Oops! So, thanks anyway for jumping through all these hoops and "taking a chance on her". But no.
At the same time the texts from Bernice were coming in, e-mails from Flunky the Maintenance Asshat were coming in to me, giving me updates on what a spectacular job his crew was doing at this house. I have never, ever, received updates from Flunky before on any job, or frankly, since.
Flunky's e-mails sent a spark of guilt through me. What I asked of everyone there was a major imposition. It was a fire drill. Please stop what you are doing, get my home ready to rent and approve my tenant in record time. I knew what I was asking when I was doing it, and I am beyond grateful they stepped up. They didn't have to. And they probably won't again--but I am getting ahead of myself.
So, back to Bernice. A credit and background check revealed that Good O'le Bernice has an open bankruptcy. She also has a fresh--like less than two month's ago--eviction she had neglected to mention to me. I had asked her some basic questions on Sunday when I was talking to her and somehow she forgot to mention these two itsy-bitsy issues. Certainly she revealed she had bruised credit but she neglected to tell me about the two absolute-I-will-not-rent-to-you-EVER deal killers. She also told me she made three times the monthly rent. And, as expected at this point, apparently Bernice's best subject in school wasn't math.
When I called Bernice back (she feigned surprise she had an eviction--how does one not know this??? and furthermore how stupid did she think I was that she thought I would believe she didn't know she had been summoned in front of a judge?) I said, "Tell me right now why I should rent to you." At which point, Bernice gave me a lovely song and dance about why she was worth taking a chance on. I wasn't convinced. Jeff, Luigi's leasing agent, agreed with me. Bernice was not worth it.
However, this home belongs to four people: The Partners, Marty Sunshine and me. As I am only one-fourth of the vote, I was over-ruled. The truth is, most likely if we don't put Bernice in this house, we are putting a Section 8 crack whore in there. In some ways, Bernice with her open bankruptcy and six-week old eviction looked a lot prettier than what else we could expect. At least that was Marty Sunshine's thinking. Essentially, we could at least get Bernice to baby-sit this particular home at least through the holidays. It wasn't that I agreed, I just saw the other side of the coin: I know what could expect from this neighborhood. Heck, even counting my home in Pinson (in foreclosure) this was the home that has been trashed the worst. At least Bernice didn't seem like the type to trash it.
When push came to shove, Marty Sunshine over-ruled me. I made him send me an e-mail saying I had no say in the matter and if this turned out to be the train-wreck I was expecting it to be, I am absolved of all responsibility.
I then called back Bernice, told her she was approved. I told her I wasn't messing around. One wrong move and she was out in the street (right... like I can make that stick). I did my best to sound like the grumpy curmudgeon I had become that day. She replied with several variations of "Thank you Mrs. Landlord. I will take great care of your place. Thank you. Thank you." She then spared my cell minutes but continually followed up with additional texts with the same sentiment.
Once I gave the astonished ("Seriously, you are going to rent to her? Have you lost your mind?") Jeff the green light to approve her. He called Bernice and told her to come in Wednesday morning and sign the lease. He went over the terms and conditions. What her move-in up front money would be. He reminded Bernice I had given her a reduction in rent and wasn't I just awesome? Apparently Bernice was thrilled--at least that is what the leasing agent told me.
Long around 7 p.m. my time that night, Bernice sent me yet another text. She wasn't moving in. Because, even though she had to be out of her apartment by the next morning, it turns out she didn't have the security deposit. Oops! So, thanks anyway for jumping through all these hoops and "taking a chance on her". But no.
Wednesday, October 28, 2015
That Monday
The O'le Accidental Business has been kinda busy lately. I would like to tell how productive this business has been, but as true in life, "busy" has nothing to do with productive.
Here's the back story: I had a home in property management. The tenant moved out. A former tenant contacted me and wanted to rent it. This was someone I know and trust. So, a couple of Fridays ago, I took the house out of property management. The following Sunday morning, I heard from Ms. Former Tenant: she wasn't moving in. So, I now have a vacant home that is out of property management.
Nevertheless, Carolsue came forward and instantly found me a potential renter. Bernice was looking to rent a home in Carolsue's neighborhood, but instead, Carolsue told her about my charming home and took her over to see it.
It turns out, Bernice loved my little home. She wanted to move in by Wednesday. And would I consider painting? And who was fixing the broken window? This is all Sunday evening.
So, that evening, I got on the computer and send a lovely note over to Luigi and Willy telling them yes, please put the home back in property management. Yes, I promise not to change my mind again. And by the way, Bernice will be calling first thing Monday morning to fill out an application. This, by the way, was a serious imposition on my part. I knew it when I did it, and hoped for the best.
I waited until Monday morning to send Flunky a note, sweetly asking him if he would pretty please fix the broken window, change the locks and paint the bathroom. And could he do it immediately, as the potential tenant was moving in on Wednesday.
As you three readers know, my relationship with Flunky the Maintenance Asshat is tenuous at best. And apparently word got back to him that I ratted him out to Luigi a few weeks ago. This probably was the reason--on a Monday morning, at a property management company, with all sorts of maintenance issues coming in from the weekend that should supersede a broken window and new locks--Flunky was so darn gracious with the "Yes, Ma'am, I would be (cough-cough) happy to help you," e-mails he sent me in reply.
Meanwhile, Carolsue was taking care of some other maintenance at the home for me. So, she was on hand to witness everything, when suddenly (and unbeknownst to me) Bernice, instead of high-tailing to the property management company to fill out an application, just decided to pop by and check on "her" home. All I knew was that I was getting texts in 20 minute intervals that said something alone the lines of "Will you fix this?" or "I haven't heard from the property management company yet." and other such nonsense. And, given it was a Monday, and I work for a Property Management company, I really didn't have the time or patience to continue to deal with Bernice.
Somewhere in the middle of all of this, I sent everyone who handles leasing as well as Luigi himself a note saying "Please, someone call her! She wants to move in by Wednesday." Finally someone reached out to Bernice and scheduled her to come in Tuesday morning to fill out an application.
To be continued
Here's the back story: I had a home in property management. The tenant moved out. A former tenant contacted me and wanted to rent it. This was someone I know and trust. So, a couple of Fridays ago, I took the house out of property management. The following Sunday morning, I heard from Ms. Former Tenant: she wasn't moving in. So, I now have a vacant home that is out of property management.
Nevertheless, Carolsue came forward and instantly found me a potential renter. Bernice was looking to rent a home in Carolsue's neighborhood, but instead, Carolsue told her about my charming home and took her over to see it.
It turns out, Bernice loved my little home. She wanted to move in by Wednesday. And would I consider painting? And who was fixing the broken window? This is all Sunday evening.
So, that evening, I got on the computer and send a lovely note over to Luigi and Willy telling them yes, please put the home back in property management. Yes, I promise not to change my mind again. And by the way, Bernice will be calling first thing Monday morning to fill out an application. This, by the way, was a serious imposition on my part. I knew it when I did it, and hoped for the best.
I waited until Monday morning to send Flunky a note, sweetly asking him if he would pretty please fix the broken window, change the locks and paint the bathroom. And could he do it immediately, as the potential tenant was moving in on Wednesday.
As you three readers know, my relationship with Flunky the Maintenance Asshat is tenuous at best. And apparently word got back to him that I ratted him out to Luigi a few weeks ago. This probably was the reason--on a Monday morning, at a property management company, with all sorts of maintenance issues coming in from the weekend that should supersede a broken window and new locks--Flunky was so darn gracious with the "Yes, Ma'am, I would be (cough-cough) happy to help you," e-mails he sent me in reply.
Meanwhile, Carolsue was taking care of some other maintenance at the home for me. So, she was on hand to witness everything, when suddenly (and unbeknownst to me) Bernice, instead of high-tailing to the property management company to fill out an application, just decided to pop by and check on "her" home. All I knew was that I was getting texts in 20 minute intervals that said something alone the lines of "Will you fix this?" or "I haven't heard from the property management company yet." and other such nonsense. And, given it was a Monday, and I work for a Property Management company, I really didn't have the time or patience to continue to deal with Bernice.
Somewhere in the middle of all of this, I sent everyone who handles leasing as well as Luigi himself a note saying "Please, someone call her! She wants to move in by Wednesday." Finally someone reached out to Bernice and scheduled her to come in Tuesday morning to fill out an application.
To be continued
Friday, October 16, 2015
Round And Round
When we last left the continuing saga of loosing our home in Pinson (the one on the two acres with a pond and wrap around porch), we were in the process of working with the first mortgage company on a deed in lieu of foreclosure. The second mortgage company however continues to call at all hours of the day and ask for my social security number. Which I refuse to give them (Hey! They called me. They should have my social security number.)
A few weeks ago, our liaison at the first mortgage company, Jonathan, wrote me and asked if I could meet the appraiser out at the house to let him in. I found this odd because he just replied to an earlier e-mail I had sent saying, "I don't live in Alabama and you can have the appraiser get the keys from the property management company. And here is their contact information." But whatever, somewhere in me saying "I don't live in Alabama" it was interpreted as "I am certainly available to drop everything and hop on over and let some dude into this home at his convenience" (who could probably enter through the broken window or where the garage door used to be--thank you former tenants).
Also as part of Jonathan's note last week he asked if I could send him the articles of incorporation for an LLC that hasn't had their name on this deed in 8 years. When I asked why, Jonathan just replied because that LLC's name is on the deed. I went to the Jefferson County Tax Records. No it isn't. But I didn't feel like arguing with Jonathan.
Instead, I just replied to Jonathan's e-mail with an answer to both: Get the keys from the property management company. And here is their contact information (again) and would you like us to change the deed back into Marty Sunshine's and my name to make everything smoother? And then I waited. And waited. And waited.
Today I got another e-mail from Jonathan. What do you know? It was a reply from my last e-mail where I asked him about the name change. But just to be sure I would think him a bit of a buffoon, he asked what was going on with us changing the name on the deed? He also told me "we" couldn't move forward with this until this issue was resolved.
And by the way, when could I get out to the house and let the appraiser in?
A few weeks ago, our liaison at the first mortgage company, Jonathan, wrote me and asked if I could meet the appraiser out at the house to let him in. I found this odd because he just replied to an earlier e-mail I had sent saying, "I don't live in Alabama and you can have the appraiser get the keys from the property management company. And here is their contact information." But whatever, somewhere in me saying "I don't live in Alabama" it was interpreted as "I am certainly available to drop everything and hop on over and let some dude into this home at his convenience" (who could probably enter through the broken window or where the garage door used to be--thank you former tenants).
Also as part of Jonathan's note last week he asked if I could send him the articles of incorporation for an LLC that hasn't had their name on this deed in 8 years. When I asked why, Jonathan just replied because that LLC's name is on the deed. I went to the Jefferson County Tax Records. No it isn't. But I didn't feel like arguing with Jonathan.
Instead, I just replied to Jonathan's e-mail with an answer to both: Get the keys from the property management company. And here is their contact information (again) and would you like us to change the deed back into Marty Sunshine's and my name to make everything smoother? And then I waited. And waited. And waited.
Today I got another e-mail from Jonathan. What do you know? It was a reply from my last e-mail where I asked him about the name change. But just to be sure I would think him a bit of a buffoon, he asked what was going on with us changing the name on the deed? He also told me "we" couldn't move forward with this until this issue was resolved.
And by the way, when could I get out to the house and let the appraiser in?
Friday, October 09, 2015
Just In Time
This past week, Flunky the Maintenance Asshat pestered me to approve the quote he gave me to have the watershed issue abated at my Fultondale home. I ignored him for several days, happily deleting his texts and filing his unread e-mails. Incidentally, the quote was significantly less, and much more reasonable, than his first "this is the only one you are going to get from me and leave me the heck alone you stupid woman who knows nothing," quote he presented me months ago.
One of the legitimate reasons I did not approve the quote right away was that I wanted Mr. 114 to take a peek and give me his professional opinion. After all, Mr. 114 does this kind of thing for a living. In this case, Mr. 114 happens to live on the smack-dab other side of town and it just isn't worth it to him to take on this job (though I begged). Eventually he graciously got back in touch with me. And yes, he gave me his blessing.
My real concern is my tenants. They have been there since 2010. They love the area. In fact Mr. Fultondale grew up in the neighborhood and fondly tells me every time I inspect the home how he used to camp in the woods approximately where my home is currently situated. The tenants keep the house in cherry condition. And through this entire ordeal, it never strayed from my mind that these folks are the unfortunate pawns in this game.
It wasn't that I wanted to hurt them. My tenants don't deserve to be put in the middle of a battle of wills between Flunky and my wallet. Nor did they sign up for a home where their basement was uninhabitable. And, if Flunky had provided me with a reasonable quote back in June, or even a second quote when I asked for it in July, there wouldn't have been a situation where the tenants couldn't use the basement for months on end.
While all this was going on, I was also keenly aware my tenants' lease is up at the end of this month. It would have been completely reasonable for them to pack up and move under the circumstances. I know I would consider doing so. Additionally, I knew if they did pack up and move, we would either 1) still have to get the work done and have to pay the turnover costs associated with having a vacant home or 2)--and this was the more likely scenario--give this home back to the bank. Neither appealed to me. Fortunately, it appears this was resolved in time and it won't be an issue after all.
One of the legitimate reasons I did not approve the quote right away was that I wanted Mr. 114 to take a peek and give me his professional opinion. After all, Mr. 114 does this kind of thing for a living. In this case, Mr. 114 happens to live on the smack-dab other side of town and it just isn't worth it to him to take on this job (though I begged). Eventually he graciously got back in touch with me. And yes, he gave me his blessing.
My real concern is my tenants. They have been there since 2010. They love the area. In fact Mr. Fultondale grew up in the neighborhood and fondly tells me every time I inspect the home how he used to camp in the woods approximately where my home is currently situated. The tenants keep the house in cherry condition. And through this entire ordeal, it never strayed from my mind that these folks are the unfortunate pawns in this game.
It wasn't that I wanted to hurt them. My tenants don't deserve to be put in the middle of a battle of wills between Flunky and my wallet. Nor did they sign up for a home where their basement was uninhabitable. And, if Flunky had provided me with a reasonable quote back in June, or even a second quote when I asked for it in July, there wouldn't have been a situation where the tenants couldn't use the basement for months on end.
While all this was going on, I was also keenly aware my tenants' lease is up at the end of this month. It would have been completely reasonable for them to pack up and move under the circumstances. I know I would consider doing so. Additionally, I knew if they did pack up and move, we would either 1) still have to get the work done and have to pay the turnover costs associated with having a vacant home or 2)--and this was the more likely scenario--give this home back to the bank. Neither appealed to me. Fortunately, it appears this was resolved in time and it won't be an issue after all.
Tuesday, October 06, 2015
The Passive Aggressive Diva That I Am
Flunky the Maintenance Asshat's e-mail arrived in my inbox at some reasonable hour Monday. It said, "Here is a new quote for the work that needs to be done on your home in Fultondale." And what do you know! It was less than half of cost of the first quote.
You remember that first quote don't you? The one I have repeatedly asked for since June? The one Mr. 114 told me was garbage? Yea, that one.
A few weeks ago, after asking Flunky repeatedly to find another vendor, he told me "there is no other company that does this kind of work", essentially letting me know this was as good as it would get and that I needed to back off. Somehow that changed last week and Birmingham became awash with watershed management companies.* This time Flunky found a more wonderful "as good as it was going to get" type of price.
Of course, because the quote was so handsome Flunky has been pestering me all darn day to approve the the project.
I probably will.
When I am good and ready.
*That pun is for you Alec.
You remember that first quote don't you? The one I have repeatedly asked for since June? The one Mr. 114 told me was garbage? Yea, that one.
A few weeks ago, after asking Flunky repeatedly to find another vendor, he told me "there is no other company that does this kind of work", essentially letting me know this was as good as it would get and that I needed to back off. Somehow that changed last week and Birmingham became awash with watershed management companies.* This time Flunky found a more wonderful "as good as it was going to get" type of price.
Of course, because the quote was so handsome Flunky has been pestering me all darn day to approve the the project.
I probably will.
When I am good and ready.
*That pun is for you Alec.
Monday, October 05, 2015
This Isn't The "Right Property"
If you aren't aware of this particular tid-bit about me, I hate showing rentals. Yes. I work for a property management company, but for the most part, I sell real estate for a property management company. Rentals. Not so much.
However, my kids are addicted to groceries. And, with Buckaroo in two sports and about to turn 13 in a matter of days, we go through a lot of groceries. A lot. So, I show rentals.
One of the nifty aspects of real estate is I can advertise other people's listings. Yes, I need permission (unless the rentals are from my company), but being able to do so allows me to generate leads. And essentially a filled rental home makes for a happy owner and a full belly for Buckaroo.
Anyway, I recently ran an ad for a home. As you may remember from our Landlord 101 final exam a few years ago on this blog (which I am pleased to say the three of you passed), the most information you will ever find out about a tenant is from the time they show any interest in a home to the moment they sign the lease. That in mind, this is the response I got from a guy named Ray for an ad I ran. It came in this past Saturday night.
"I am interested in this rental and would like to schedule a viewing today. My roommate are looking to move into a property as soon as Monday. We have cash in hand and are ready to move on the right property. Can I see this property tomorrow?"
Now, mind you, the dude didn't call me--which would make a heck of a lot more sense if he has the urgency I seem to be reading into this. It also appears he can't make up his mind. Did he want to see this house on Saturday or Sunday. Marty Sunshine was even questioning whether or not he was real. That aside, there are a few reasons why I would never rent to him if this were my property.
1) He sounds desperate. If you are willing to move within two days (mind you it takes about two business days to run a background check, credit check and landlord check), why? Are you being kicked out of your current home? Did you not realize the month rolled over and are just exhibiting poor planning skills? Owners don't like poor planning skills from tenants. It tends to become a monthly trend, which involves poor planning with the rent.
2) He has a roommate. That probably means he can't afford the rent himself (which in this case is $1200). Most landlords (me and the company I work for included) require a tenant to have a monthly income of three times the monthly rent. If you need a roommate, you probably are not going to fall into that category. And what happens if Ray and his roomie have a falling out and the roommate leaves? Can Ray afford the rent or does he bail on an unsuspecting owner?
That was rhetorical by the way. We all know the answer to this because it was in the Landlord 102 final exam.
3) And finally, Ray has cash. Nowhere in his quick message did it say anything about him having the "money" for rent and deposits. Just that he has "cash." Of course, there is the usual cliches about the kinds of folks who have all cash businesses. Ray sounds like a nice, Italian name. Don't you think?
But drug runners and mafia aside there is the screaming subtext of, "I don't have a bank account" or "My credit is so bad that I cannot get a checking account." Most owners don't accept potential tenants who do not have bank accounts. These folks tend to look more transient. And less reliable. And the question coming to my mind is why is this person not grown up enough to have a bank account? Granted it isn't against the law to keep your money in an empty fruit cocktail can in the pantry, but it is nonconforming. Owners tend to appreciate conforming. And stability.
I did not respond to Ray. For one thing, today is Monday. I didn't work this past Sunday so I didn't get his message in time. And second, I don't want to help him. My feeling is that he first needs to help himself.
However, my kids are addicted to groceries. And, with Buckaroo in two sports and about to turn 13 in a matter of days, we go through a lot of groceries. A lot. So, I show rentals.
One of the nifty aspects of real estate is I can advertise other people's listings. Yes, I need permission (unless the rentals are from my company), but being able to do so allows me to generate leads. And essentially a filled rental home makes for a happy owner and a full belly for Buckaroo.
Anyway, I recently ran an ad for a home. As you may remember from our Landlord 101 final exam a few years ago on this blog (which I am pleased to say the three of you passed), the most information you will ever find out about a tenant is from the time they show any interest in a home to the moment they sign the lease. That in mind, this is the response I got from a guy named Ray for an ad I ran. It came in this past Saturday night.
"I am interested in this rental and would like to schedule a viewing today. My roommate are looking to move into a property as soon as Monday. We have cash in hand and are ready to move on the right property. Can I see this property tomorrow?"
Now, mind you, the dude didn't call me--which would make a heck of a lot more sense if he has the urgency I seem to be reading into this. It also appears he can't make up his mind. Did he want to see this house on Saturday or Sunday. Marty Sunshine was even questioning whether or not he was real. That aside, there are a few reasons why I would never rent to him if this were my property.
1) He sounds desperate. If you are willing to move within two days (mind you it takes about two business days to run a background check, credit check and landlord check), why? Are you being kicked out of your current home? Did you not realize the month rolled over and are just exhibiting poor planning skills? Owners don't like poor planning skills from tenants. It tends to become a monthly trend, which involves poor planning with the rent.
2) He has a roommate. That probably means he can't afford the rent himself (which in this case is $1200). Most landlords (me and the company I work for included) require a tenant to have a monthly income of three times the monthly rent. If you need a roommate, you probably are not going to fall into that category. And what happens if Ray and his roomie have a falling out and the roommate leaves? Can Ray afford the rent or does he bail on an unsuspecting owner?
That was rhetorical by the way. We all know the answer to this because it was in the Landlord 102 final exam.
3) And finally, Ray has cash. Nowhere in his quick message did it say anything about him having the "money" for rent and deposits. Just that he has "cash." Of course, there is the usual cliches about the kinds of folks who have all cash businesses. Ray sounds like a nice, Italian name. Don't you think?
But drug runners and mafia aside there is the screaming subtext of, "I don't have a bank account" or "My credit is so bad that I cannot get a checking account." Most owners don't accept potential tenants who do not have bank accounts. These folks tend to look more transient. And less reliable. And the question coming to my mind is why is this person not grown up enough to have a bank account? Granted it isn't against the law to keep your money in an empty fruit cocktail can in the pantry, but it is nonconforming. Owners tend to appreciate conforming. And stability.
I did not respond to Ray. For one thing, today is Monday. I didn't work this past Sunday so I didn't get his message in time. And second, I don't want to help him. My feeling is that he first needs to help himself.
Thursday, October 01, 2015
Karma
So I work for a property management company. Last year, one of our owners from Canada came down to Arizona to visit their five properties. They also wanted to buy another--which was where I came in. I found them the best deal ever on a home. They got it for $70,000 under market.
In exchange for jumping through a lot of hoops and finding them the bargain of the century, they wrote a note to the broker telling him how incompetent I happen to be. Of course, nobody on my end believed it and my conscience was clear.
Fast forward to six months later. One of their properties came vacant. As part of my job, I found them not one, not two, but three qualified tenants to rent this home. All of them would have been dream tenants. All of them were rejected for various reasons, including in one case--and I am not making this up--though the husband's monthly salary was more than than five times the monthly rent and they had no debt and a sizable savings account, the wife didn't work outside the home. And, what would happen if the husband lost his job? Who would pay the rent then?
At that point, I recused myself, told my broker he was on his own and he could find tenants for these yahoos. I also made it clear I would never, ever show any of their rentals. Ever.
This past week one of their rentals came vacant. And, what did these folks do? They fired my broker and have decided to rent it out and manage it themselves from Canada. Best of luck to them. They will need it.
In exchange for jumping through a lot of hoops and finding them the bargain of the century, they wrote a note to the broker telling him how incompetent I happen to be. Of course, nobody on my end believed it and my conscience was clear.
Fast forward to six months later. One of their properties came vacant. As part of my job, I found them not one, not two, but three qualified tenants to rent this home. All of them would have been dream tenants. All of them were rejected for various reasons, including in one case--and I am not making this up--though the husband's monthly salary was more than than five times the monthly rent and they had no debt and a sizable savings account, the wife didn't work outside the home. And, what would happen if the husband lost his job? Who would pay the rent then?
At that point, I recused myself, told my broker he was on his own and he could find tenants for these yahoos. I also made it clear I would never, ever show any of their rentals. Ever.
This past week one of their rentals came vacant. And, what did these folks do? They fired my broker and have decided to rent it out and manage it themselves from Canada. Best of luck to them. They will need it.
Wednesday, September 30, 2015
Now Marty's Drama
So after several maddening e-mails with Flunky the Maintenance Asshat today I finally told him that I pay the property management company to handle these kinds of things . And as soon as he has done his job to find out what is really going on, he can let me know so that I can make an informed decision about what to do about the hot water heater.
Five minutes later Flunky wrote me back and said "I just want to know if you want to call a plumber or should I?"
Frankly, I don't know if I need a plumber. For all I know the tenant is whining about nothing and wants to get out of her lease (that happens. Often.). Of course, if a plumber is needed he should call. That's why he is the Maintenance Guy.
Also, I had already covered that particular topic in other exchanges with him today. He has yet to tell me what "not hot enough water" happens to be. Instead of replying, I did what any sensible wife would do. I forwarded the e-mail to Marty Sunshine and said, "You deal with this and make sure he doesn't contact me about this again."
Five minutes later Flunky wrote me back and said "I just want to know if you want to call a plumber or should I?"
Frankly, I don't know if I need a plumber. For all I know the tenant is whining about nothing and wants to get out of her lease (that happens. Often.). Of course, if a plumber is needed he should call. That's why he is the Maintenance Guy.
Also, I had already covered that particular topic in other exchanges with him today. He has yet to tell me what "not hot enough water" happens to be. Instead of replying, I did what any sensible wife would do. I forwarded the e-mail to Marty Sunshine and said, "You deal with this and make sure he doesn't contact me about this again."
Close, But Not Close Enough
I just got a work order from Flunky the Maintenance Asshat. As usual he has usurped my repeated requests for him to work directly with Marty Sunshine. At this point I am convinced he only writes to me because because he has it out for me.
That's ok. I have it out for him too.
Apparently one of my tenants is in crisis. The work order said the tenant has hot water, but it isn't "hot enough". Flunky asked me what I wanted him to do about it.
I don't know, perhaps ask for a clarification to what "not hot enough" happens to mean? How long is this tenant running the hot water? How hot does she want the water? You know, so basics so that I can make an informed decision.
As politely as I could muster, I responded to Flunky by asking for clarification. I am guessing now this will turn into a complete pain in the neck that will make me crazy by Friday.
That's ok. I have it out for him too.
Apparently one of my tenants is in crisis. The work order said the tenant has hot water, but it isn't "hot enough". Flunky asked me what I wanted him to do about it.
I don't know, perhaps ask for a clarification to what "not hot enough" happens to mean? How long is this tenant running the hot water? How hot does she want the water? You know, so basics so that I can make an informed decision.
As politely as I could muster, I responded to Flunky by asking for clarification. I am guessing now this will turn into a complete pain in the neck that will make me crazy by Friday.
Tuesday, September 22, 2015
Back at Square One
Now then, where did we leave off with the house in North Centerpoint?
You remember this drama don't you? This is the home where the mortgage was called due a year ago for some reason unbeknownst to us. In addition, the Bigoted Asset Manager's committee rejected all reasonable short sale offers--unless we agree to give them $36,000 more than we actually owe on the mortgage. After we agreed to disagree on this matter, the Bigoted Asset Manager then went back to the "committee" and asked if the bank would agree to a deed in lieu of foreclosure. Apparently this "committee" meets regularly, because not two days later the committee said no to this request too.
Actually, the day we got the rejection letter we also received another letter from the same mortgage company. The second letter was a demand for the full amount of the mortgage. The same mortgage they called due last year, and had they not, we could have been paying all along and never been in this situation. The mortgage company rejected our short sales. They have now rejected our request for a deed in lieu. But they want their money. Good luck with that. We don't have it.
I spoke to Legalowl right after I got the letter from the bank. She said to do nothing. She did suggest we keep the insurance and taxes up on the property. "It makes for a smoother transition." Whatever that means. This has been nothing but smooth. I also suspect if we don't pay the impounds the bank might move faster. But who knows.
Eventually someone at the bank is going to want this deadwood off their books. But until then, we will just let it sit there.
Monday, September 21, 2015
I Figure He Is Still Reading
So this past weekend Luigi contacted me and asked if I had any concerns about Flunky the Asshat Maintenance Manager. I have no idea what prompted his question or why he decided to ask little old me, but he did.
And, it just so happens I do have concerns. Lots of them. And I shared the ones I remembered off the top of my head with Luigi. If I had given myself some time, I would have come up with several more. I toyed with sending a "chapter 2" to Luigi or sending him copies of the crappy e-mails Flunky has sent me in the past year, but I didn't want to sound vindictive. I am guessing long about paragraph 10 of my dissertation Luigi was a bit sorry he brought this up.
In all fairness, I kept my comments neutral and factual. I left out the drama--except when Flunky contacted me at 5:21 a.m. and then told me it wasn't "urgent." Yea... I am still pissy about that.
And finally, I told Luigi I have left property management behind, and yet every call/text/e-mail from Flunky means I have to spend at the very minimum four hours of my time making sure I have the right person around to do the work because Flunky is short on customer service and feels entitled to spend my money any darn way he wants. If I wanted to spend four hours of my life fact-checking Flunky I could just manage my own properties and save myself a few dollars.
I did tell Luigi I very strongly feel there are probably many other owners who feel the same way I do. I also (rhetorically) questioned how many owners may have left this particular property management company just to be rid of Flunky. I summed up my thoughts by suggesting Flunky is harming Luigi's reputation as well as Luigi's company's reputation. Reputations are easy to destroy and hard to build.
Incidentally, I still haven't heard back from Luigi. That's fine. I have said my piece.
And, it just so happens I do have concerns. Lots of them. And I shared the ones I remembered off the top of my head with Luigi. If I had given myself some time, I would have come up with several more. I toyed with sending a "chapter 2" to Luigi or sending him copies of the crappy e-mails Flunky has sent me in the past year, but I didn't want to sound vindictive. I am guessing long about paragraph 10 of my dissertation Luigi was a bit sorry he brought this up.
In all fairness, I kept my comments neutral and factual. I left out the drama--except when Flunky contacted me at 5:21 a.m. and then told me it wasn't "urgent." Yea... I am still pissy about that.
And finally, I told Luigi I have left property management behind, and yet every call/text/e-mail from Flunky means I have to spend at the very minimum four hours of my time making sure I have the right person around to do the work because Flunky is short on customer service and feels entitled to spend my money any darn way he wants. If I wanted to spend four hours of my life fact-checking Flunky I could just manage my own properties and save myself a few dollars.
Incidentally, I still haven't heard back from Luigi. That's fine. I have said my piece.
Saturday, September 05, 2015
And Just To Be Sure
Right after I wrote the Bigoted Asset Manager, I forwarded Pam the Supervisor the same e-mail. Underneath it I attached several items of my ignored correspondence from the guy. Here's hoping this process moves a little faster from this point forward.
Friday, September 04, 2015
Bless His Bigoted, Cold, Rotten Heart
Our house in North Birmingham where we were trying to get a short sale got interesting. Since April, I had been talking to the Bigoted Asset Manager who had encouraged me to do a short sale. In fact, he blatantly discouraged me to let the house go into foreclosure.
When we first spoke in April, he suggested that the "committee" (???) would never "believe" Marty and I "needed a short sale" under the "circumstances". He said he was looking at our credit scores at that very moment and it would be a "hard sell" and didn't I just want to pay what I owe?
At the time, thinking I was working with a professional, I explained that the second mortgage had been called due--by his company and without any conceivable reason--starting this train wreck, the tenant had moved out and we were no longer in a position to take care of this house. The Bigoted Asset Manager made tut-tut noises and sent me on my way.
Four months later, Kirby submitted a total of four cash offers for our home to this bank. I had been speaking to the Bigoted Asset Manager all along. At one point, he sent me an e-mail offering me unreasonable terms to settle this account. We said no. Foreclose. The bigoted Asset Manager backed down, saying he would see what he could do.
What he did do was send me a lovely letter, via US Postal Service saying the "committee" rejected my short sale. What he also did was ignore my e-mails and phone calls for the following weeks.
Sick of the entire process, I sicced Marty on this. Last week Marty called around to this bank trying to find the person to talk to so that we could start the deed in lieu of foreclosure process. He left voicemail after voicemail. Finally someone named "Pam" called him back. Apparently Pam is a supervisor. She listened carefully as Marty relayed our story (we tried the short sale route and you folks rejected the offers we got.). Pam was none-too-happy we had jumped through so many hoops and promised to have someone call by the end of the day.
And someone did call. It was the Bigoted Asset Manager. On the phone with Marty, he was polite, reasonable and back-pedaled. It was clear that he and Pam had a terse conversation prior to him calling our home. Apparently at that particular moment he was more than willing to help us in any way.
However, when I found out Marty was on the phone with the guy, I was furious. He would return Marty's call, but not mine. I said loudly, "Is that the same Bigoted Asset Manager who refused to return my calls and e-mails for the past month but yet will call you back at the drop of a hat?"
At which point, Marty shot up a hand and gave me a look, begging me not to pick up the home extension and continue my tirade at the guy. Apparently the Bigoted Asset Manager heard me because Marty relayed the following message from him, "Thank you for being so professional Mrs. Landlord through the entire short sale process." And that just annoyed me further.
As it stands now, I believe the Bigoted Asset Manager is supposed to go back to the alleged "committee" and ask for guidance. We explained that we no longer had buyers for the house, so we would have to start over with another short sale--that is if Kirby is willing to do this again. After all, nobody likes working for free.
And just to be sure we are all on the same page, I e-mailed the jerk the following note:
When we first spoke in April, he suggested that the "committee" (???) would never "believe" Marty and I "needed a short sale" under the "circumstances". He said he was looking at our credit scores at that very moment and it would be a "hard sell" and didn't I just want to pay what I owe?
At the time, thinking I was working with a professional, I explained that the second mortgage had been called due--by his company and without any conceivable reason--starting this train wreck, the tenant had moved out and we were no longer in a position to take care of this house. The Bigoted Asset Manager made tut-tut noises and sent me on my way.
Four months later, Kirby submitted a total of four cash offers for our home to this bank. I had been speaking to the Bigoted Asset Manager all along. At one point, he sent me an e-mail offering me unreasonable terms to settle this account. We said no. Foreclose. The bigoted Asset Manager backed down, saying he would see what he could do.
What he did do was send me a lovely letter, via US Postal Service saying the "committee" rejected my short sale. What he also did was ignore my e-mails and phone calls for the following weeks.
Sick of the entire process, I sicced Marty on this. Last week Marty called around to this bank trying to find the person to talk to so that we could start the deed in lieu of foreclosure process. He left voicemail after voicemail. Finally someone named "Pam" called him back. Apparently Pam is a supervisor. She listened carefully as Marty relayed our story (we tried the short sale route and you folks rejected the offers we got.). Pam was none-too-happy we had jumped through so many hoops and promised to have someone call by the end of the day.
And someone did call. It was the Bigoted Asset Manager. On the phone with Marty, he was polite, reasonable and back-pedaled. It was clear that he and Pam had a terse conversation prior to him calling our home. Apparently at that particular moment he was more than willing to help us in any way.
However, when I found out Marty was on the phone with the guy, I was furious. He would return Marty's call, but not mine. I said loudly, "Is that the same Bigoted Asset Manager who refused to return my calls and e-mails for the past month but yet will call you back at the drop of a hat?"
At which point, Marty shot up a hand and gave me a look, begging me not to pick up the home extension and continue my tirade at the guy. Apparently the Bigoted Asset Manager heard me because Marty relayed the following message from him, "Thank you for being so professional Mrs. Landlord through the entire short sale process." And that just annoyed me further.
As it stands now, I believe the Bigoted Asset Manager is supposed to go back to the alleged "committee" and ask for guidance. We explained that we no longer had buyers for the house, so we would have to start over with another short sale--that is if Kirby is willing to do this again. After all, nobody likes working for free.
And just to be sure we are all on the same page, I e-mailed the jerk the following note:
Dear Bigoted Asset Manager,
Thank you for taking time to speak to my husband about our situation earlier this week. As he has a full time job, he still would like me to be the point of contact for this issue.
Would you please let me know what the next steps happen to be so that we can turn this home back over to the Bank. As your committee has rejected the four cash offers we brought you, it seems reasonable to expect a deed in lieu of foreclosure or a judicial foreclosure. We are more than willing to accommodate and save your company the trouble of a judicial foreclosure. So, if a deed in lieu works for you, that would be great with us.
Currently the home is vacant and probably vulnerable to vandalism and vagrancy, so moving forward and quickly as possible is probably in everyone's best interest.
Please advise soon.
Sincerely,
The Landlord
I know it is more wordy than "Bless your heart" but I sure hope it conveys the same sentiment.
Thursday, September 03, 2015
Mr. 114 to the Rescue
It is obvious that neither Flunky nor Marty are going to take care of the issue for the house in Fultondale. I am rather annoyed, but that is for another blog. The main issue is that the home is situated downhill and that happens to be the direction water flows when it rains.
Even in the South.
Because water flows downhill, it appears (according to the tenant who is squawking about this matter) it is somehow coming into the home. At one time I had the house sealed and drains put in to resolve this matter. The person who did it was Mr. 114, someone I know, trust and believe in. I don't trust or believe in Flunky the Maintenance Asshat who is in charge of finding someone to re-fix this issue.
Now before you suggest the obvious: why doesn't Mr. 114 go out there and fix the issue? After all, he did it once before and the problem has come back. There are two reasons. One, the scope of work he did last time did not include this area where water is coming in now. Think of it like this: if a roof has a leak, and it is patched it can still leak somewhere else at a later date. In this case, when Mr. 114 fixed the first water drainage issue, he shored up other potential areas of concern. But he didn't have a crystal ball on what would happen seven years in the future. If a tenant happens to plant or move earth or doesn't clean out the french drains on the property, water can be diverted and go somewhere else.
As I am not there and only hearing this second-hand, I don't know if the tenant has caused this or if there is an erosion issue. Right now, because Flunky is useless and won't tell me where the water is coming in ("I don't know but I will ask the contractor.") Mr. 114--who does this kind of thing for a living and is familiar with this house--is of the mind that the water may be coming in from under the porch, a place that was shored up at one time, but if the tenant moved things around it could be an issue now.
The other reason Mr. 114 doesn't want the job is because he lives 60 miles from this house. However, he has been a wealth of knowledge. And for that, I am grateful.
To speed things along, I recently asked Flunky for a new quote for this work. The first quote was more than I felt was reasonable. Instead of actually, you know, finding another quote, Flunky quickly told me "that is the best he can do."
As this issue was starting to get out of hand, I called Mr. 114. I asked him what he thought of my quote. And, Mr. 114 even called Flunky on my behalf to discuss this quote. When Mr. 114 called me, he didn't mince words. He said, "I don't' trust him and your quote is crap." That's what I was thinking too.
Apparently, Flunky's quote calls for only 8 feet of drain to be installed (for $2000????). The house is longer than 8 feet. So, installing culverts and drains for 8 feet will only divert the water so far before it pools up, causing more damage. There are other issues with the quote too. According to Mr. 114 the scope of the work I am being asked to pay for will do nothing to resolve the issue and only make things worse. And according to Mr. 114 he told Flunky to get another quote.
When I spoke with Mr. 114 yesterday, he told me not to proceed (no problem there, I don't have that kind of cash right now). He said wait for the new quote and immediately send it to him prior to agreeing to anything.
I am good with that.
Even in the South.
Because water flows downhill, it appears (according to the tenant who is squawking about this matter) it is somehow coming into the home. At one time I had the house sealed and drains put in to resolve this matter. The person who did it was Mr. 114, someone I know, trust and believe in. I don't trust or believe in Flunky the Maintenance Asshat who is in charge of finding someone to re-fix this issue.
Now before you suggest the obvious: why doesn't Mr. 114 go out there and fix the issue? After all, he did it once before and the problem has come back. There are two reasons. One, the scope of work he did last time did not include this area where water is coming in now. Think of it like this: if a roof has a leak, and it is patched it can still leak somewhere else at a later date. In this case, when Mr. 114 fixed the first water drainage issue, he shored up other potential areas of concern. But he didn't have a crystal ball on what would happen seven years in the future. If a tenant happens to plant or move earth or doesn't clean out the french drains on the property, water can be diverted and go somewhere else.
As I am not there and only hearing this second-hand, I don't know if the tenant has caused this or if there is an erosion issue. Right now, because Flunky is useless and won't tell me where the water is coming in ("I don't know but I will ask the contractor.") Mr. 114--who does this kind of thing for a living and is familiar with this house--is of the mind that the water may be coming in from under the porch, a place that was shored up at one time, but if the tenant moved things around it could be an issue now.
The other reason Mr. 114 doesn't want the job is because he lives 60 miles from this house. However, he has been a wealth of knowledge. And for that, I am grateful.
To speed things along, I recently asked Flunky for a new quote for this work. The first quote was more than I felt was reasonable. Instead of actually, you know, finding another quote, Flunky quickly told me "that is the best he can do."
As this issue was starting to get out of hand, I called Mr. 114. I asked him what he thought of my quote. And, Mr. 114 even called Flunky on my behalf to discuss this quote. When Mr. 114 called me, he didn't mince words. He said, "I don't' trust him and your quote is crap." That's what I was thinking too.
Apparently, Flunky's quote calls for only 8 feet of drain to be installed (for $2000????). The house is longer than 8 feet. So, installing culverts and drains for 8 feet will only divert the water so far before it pools up, causing more damage. There are other issues with the quote too. According to Mr. 114 the scope of the work I am being asked to pay for will do nothing to resolve the issue and only make things worse. And according to Mr. 114 he told Flunky to get another quote.
When I spoke with Mr. 114 yesterday, he told me not to proceed (no problem there, I don't have that kind of cash right now). He said wait for the new quote and immediately send it to him prior to agreeing to anything.
I am good with that.
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